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Imhotep ,

I strongly disagree with the decision to centralize all ukraine war news in a megathread.

That’s not how information is consumed on a medium like Lemmy. What you’re doing makes the topic invisible for the vast majority of users.

N00dle ,
@N00dle@lemmy.world avatar

Too many things happening to make a new post for every single event.

grozzle ,

Dude this is over two weeks old already. The date in the title makes it look like it was a daily thread for that one day. You’re effectively hiding news from a large fraction of subscribers with this policy.

N00dle ,
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Yeah the megathread being so old is an issue. I meant a megathread being daily would make sense.

grozzle ,

Ah, I just realised, I mistook you for someone else. I guess because of the vowel, I thought you’re @Ruud who runs this lemmy instance.

That’s why I wrote as if you’re the one making the decision - sorry.

hjl ,

I just realized that this is an active thread, I thought the feed hadn’t updated since June 25th, as many other community feeds are intermittent or have multi day lags. Maybe have a daily thread or something to indicate aliveness?

veroxii ,

I think it should be a daily thread, not a single megathread.

xohshoo ,

is there enough activity for that?

veroxii ,

Maybe weekly then until it picks up.

guyman ,

I totally agree with you. This is a very inefficient way to share information, blending comments with postings.

The solution is to have the option to filter dominant topics the same way /r/worldnews does. We should do this in addition to having a megathread, again just like /r/worldnews.

dragontamer ,

nafo.uk/explore

Looks like nafo has moved onto Mastodon guys!

Pro-Ukrainian talk has been hampered on Twitter, so its time to just spread NAFO-like talk to Mastodon. There’s no more benefit to using Twitter for this.

sabbah ,
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The US will provide cluster munitions to Ukraine as part of a new military aid package: AP sources

euronews.com/…/us-president-joe-biden-approves-tr…

sabbah ,
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Wagner chief Prigozhin returns to Russia, fate unclear (video):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXdQJescGIw

N00dle ,
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The whole sage with this guy has just been strange. He’s supposed to be exiled but can just return and say “I want my seized guns and money back”.

SloppyPuppy ,

What even the fuck is going on? Now they just let him walk into russia being cheered and all… what a shitshow really

sabbah ,
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Wagner boss Prigozhin is in Russia, Belarus ruler Lukashenko says:

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66118007

CrackaJack ,

I like how Prigozhin could just waltz in after the getting a pass for staging a coup. It shows how Putin has gone weak.

WorldNews OP ,
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Ukraine claims ‘explosive devices’ planted on roof of Zaporizhzhia nuclear facility:

news.sky.com/…/ukraine-claims-explosive-devices-p…

WorldNews OP ,
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Ukraine war: Russia accused of planting explosives at nuclear plant, children injured in strike:

euronews.com/…/ukraine-war-russia-accused-of-plan…

d4rknusw1ld ,

Yessssss. The mega thread returns!! Now I can delete Reddit! ❤️

DrDickHandler ,

It’s a pretty dead one but okay.

DrDickHandler ,

It’s a pretty dead one but okay.

d4rknusw1ld ,

I just noticed. Thanks Doctor Dick Grabber.

maegul ,
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Hi all … kind of a meta non-news question.

I’ve been thinking about getting a person who writes great Russia-Ukraine threads over on Mastodon to post their threads here. I’ve got a general post about the possibility here: lemmy.ml/post/1528973.

I’ve also pestered @sabbah via DM.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on whether there’d be a good fit here.

The main point is to make it as easy as possible for them by allowing them to post from mastodon still. So the ideal would be that they would create new posts here and create a thread within that post, to which people would be free to comment on of course.

Except that doesn’t seem to fit within the rules here, especially rule [1.1] Submissions must be links to news articles..

Thing is, this person’s threads are full of citations of or links to Telegram sources from within Russia or the region, basically a thread of primary sources that the author is compiling into a digestible narrative. It might really be something people here would appreciate, especially as I discovered them through links provided in a megathread on here.

Sooo … I’m wondering what you think and whether there might be some scope to alter the rules and allow for this sort of thing … the idea would be that it’s something like a journalist live reporting.

WorldNews OP ,
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Hi,

While Rule [1.1] applies to the main submission post, we would like to clarify that in the case of our mega thread, posting links to social media sources (such as Mastodon) is acceptable as they will be placed in the comments section of the thread.

As of now, we don’t have much experience with cross-posting from Mastodon to Lemmy. However, if you can provide us with some examples, we can explore the possibility of incorporating it in some way. Your input and examples would greatly assist us in understanding the process better and potentially adopting it within our community.

maegul ,
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On posting directly to a megathread … thanks! While this is good, and has already happened in megathreads (I forget which I saw it in), it doesn’t lean into the federation of content that can happen which is what I’m trying to see more of. That is, not just “cross-posting” but the same thread existing on two platforms simultaneously in much the same way lemmy communities exist on multiple instances simultaneously.

Otherwise, happy to talk about the mastodon<->lemmy “cross-posting”.

Here’s a basic demo I’ve written, posting from Mastodon to !test : hachyderm.io/@maegul/110483509521476095And here’s the view of the post on lemmy: lemmy.ml/post/1142168

You’ll see that both lemmy and mastodon users can comment or reply with the only difference being how the two platforms display the threads (lemmy doing a much nicer job IMO)

The key machansim is that lemmy communities federate to mastodon as “users” that can be “at-ed” like any other user from mastodon. Lemmy then interprets such a post as a new post to the “at-ed” community, takes the first line as the title and the rest as the body. The only trickiness is that lemmy will only pay attention to the first “at-ed” handle, to prevent cross-posting and spam.

What I initially imagined was that someone could start their own journalistic megathreads here by doing exactly the above and then replying to their previous post to create a thread on mastodon and a chain of comments to a “megathread” post here on lemmy. This would be the easiest for the person posting from mastodon.

The difficulty for you is that it would be a post that isn’t necessarily to a news source, but just a stand alone post … though the person I’m asking on behalf of is almost always providing sources/links.

Beyond that there’d be your policy of confining all Russia-Ukraine war stuff to the megathread. On this, they could reply to the megathread and basically embed their mastodon thread within the megathread. This would work well. It’s just that finding the megathread from mastodon and replying to it can be non-trivial and may not be available all the time.

For instance, I can’t find the current megathread on my mastodon account and I don’t know why … it’s probably an instance visibility problem and will get better now that I’ve subscribed/followed [email protected] from my mastodon instance. So this may become a good way forward without much hassle.

As for the kind of threads I’m thinking of … here’s an example: hachyderm.io/@mariyadelano/110599817912125441

WorldNews OP ,
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Is Russia purging Wagner Group troops in Africa?

nbcnews.com/…/russia-purging-wagner-group-troops-…

N00dle ,
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Russian construction firms are reportedly being told to send their workers to fight in Ukraine or face losing lucrative contracts from the city of Moscow.

mastodon.social/@ChrisO_wiki/110673874923522666

N00dle ,
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Lukashenko shares some more details about the day of Prigozhin’s mutiny.

He reveals there were no defense lines in Russia up until 200 km from Moscow (some regions are more equal than others?) and carefully chooses words to present Putin as a strong leader, while pointing out it was Lukashenko who did all the negotiating.

mstdn.social/@Free_Press/110674608156175504

sabbah ,
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Russia’s kidnapping of Ukrainian children is not unique – Putin and others have long used children as political pawns:

theconversation.com/russias-kidnapping-of-ukraini…

Blursty ,

Maybe they were just saving them from the Ukrainians who were going to eat them?

sabbah ,
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Wagner: Leaked images show Prigozhin ‘disguised as Libyan commander’:

middleeasteye.net/…/wagner-leader-prigozhin-leake…

Woland ,
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france24.com/…/20230704-we-need-a-lot-more-lack-o…

‘We need a lot more’: Lack of firepower hampers Ukraine’s advance on Zaporizhzhia front line As Ukraine’s top army general has put it, every metre of ground in the country’s counteroffensive is being won “with blood”. The Ukrainian soldiers’ progress is particularly gruelling in the southeastern Zaporizhzhia region. FRANCE 24’s Gwendoline Debono reports from the front line, where Russian forces are giving Ukraine’s artillerymen no respite.

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