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Biden seeks 'full accountability' after death of US citizen in West Bank

In a statement, Biden said that while Israel has taken responsibility for her death, the U.S. government expects continued access as the investigation continues over the circumstances of the shooting. “There must be full accountability. And Israel must do more to ensure that incidents like this never happen again,” Biden said.

Sundial ,

Words are empty if not backed up by actions.

givesomefucks ,

Remember when he had those words about sanctioning high ranking members of Israel’s government if the genocide continued?

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Then he sanctioned some broke ass “settlers” for a week or two and pulled it back once everyone had clapped for him.

Sundial ,

Human rights are only important when politically convenient.

antmzo220 , (edited )

I think this quote from Harris in the debate sums up the American support for the genocide. You can’t except the former colonial genocidal regime to oppose the new one they propped up.

And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself. We would.

Edit: it seems most people think I ment this was a good thing? No, America isn’t inherently good.

This statement shows how America supports the genocide because America would be willing to do similar slaughter if an attack happened to us (look at our post 9/11 actions for an example of the destruction we are willing to cause). It also shows how she not only recognizes but supports this view.

spankmonkey , (edited )

When I hear that, who is Israel defending it self from if Gaza and the West Bank are not separate nations? Are they part of Israel and Israel is defending itself against itself?

‘Defend itself’ makes sense in the context of Iran or Hezbollah, but the thousands of men, women, and children killed in Gaza that are not involved in the fighting aren’t external threats. They are victims of apartheid.

Saleh ,

More precisely the Palestinians are illegally occupied and occupied people have a right to defend themselves against the occupation.

GiveMemes , (edited )

She literally clarified that she was going to provide weapons for defense from Iran and its puppets, that she will fight for a 2 state solution, and called for a cease fire. Like a sentence later.

Jfc. Race to the bottom, though I don’t blame you when this guy is purposely taking things out of context.

spankmonkey , (edited )

To the best of my recollection she was asked in the context of Gaza and the Oct 7th attack during the debate, not attacks from Iran. The ‘Israel must defend itself’ argument comes up constantly in the context of the massive death toll in Gaza.

I know the situation is complex and foreign states like Iran fund and supply Palestinian resistance, but it seems like a an easy way to deflect criticism by changing the focus from Palestinians to hostike nations like Iran.

Sundial ,

Biden has been saying that for the duration of the war. And everyday there’s a new war crime and all he does is repeat the same practiced sentences with no actions to back them up. Harris has given 0 indication that she would be any different. There comes a point where their words are meaningless on this topic and we are long past it.

antmzo220 , (edited )

She literally clarified that she was going to provide weapons for defense from Iran and its puppets,

Yeah, so who are “Iran and it’s puppets”?

  • THE VICE PRESIDENT: Okay. So, I just had a frank and constructive meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu. I told him that I will always ensure that Israel is able to defend itself, including from Iran and Iran-backed militias, such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

July 25, after a meeting with Netanyahu

whitehouse.gov/…/remarks-by-vice-president-harris…

Who is fighting to stop the Israeli genocide?..

So she clarified that she’s not pro Genocide, she will just support Israels “right to defend” itself from those who actually oppose their genocide.

The rest is empty words and doublespeak. She supports Israels war against Hamas and continued funding of their genocidal apartheid state while they genocide Palestinians.

If she really wanted a ceasefire she would vow to end support if they didn’t cease fire, not keep giving them whatever they want and asking nicely that they stop

Sundial ,

I would agree with that statement if over 40,000 confirmed deaths of civilians in 8 months wasn’t what was happening.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

She addressed that in the next sentence

Sundial ,

And what actions has she taken to make us believe she actually means to protect Palestinians? Don’t give me quotes, give me actions.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

She’s the vice president. She has no control over the situation.

Sundial ,

Really?? The Vice President of the United States, second only to the President, has no control over policies being made in the United States? She doesn’t have a podium to address her citizens and her fellow politicians to speak her mind and influence public opinion? She doesn’t preside over the senate to cast tie-breaking votes so that she can help sway decisions? She doesn’t have the ability to make a campaign promise, as the Democratic candidate for President, to stop arming Israel while they slaughter innocents?

No, she has a lot of power to help influence decisions. She’s just scared to because of that sweet sweet AIPAC money.

antmzo220 , (edited )

Do you think America wouldn’t do the same though?

Edit: I never said it was a good thing, just that she said the quiet part out loud.

Sundial ,

Are you trying to justify America arming and funding a colonial state intent on wiping out the entire native population in addition to the routine execution and murder of international aid workers and journalists by saying “Well wouldn’t America do the same thing?”

Keeponstalin ,

The overwhelming majority of Democratic voters and the majority of all Americans support a permanent ceasefire and even conditional arms sales (a plurality for a full arms embargo). Biden and Harris are jeopardizing a significant amount of votes, especially in swing states, by not pivoting on Israel/Palestine. If Harris did pivot, she would get significant gains

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Mrkawfee ,

Words for show. Bombs for real.

assassinatedbyCIA ,

What are you going to do to ensure israel complies mr biden. I’m guessing what you usually do, fuck all.

nonailsleft ,

He’ll write them some firm words on the bombs

catloaf ,

“I will continue to support policies that hold all extremists – Israelis and Palestinians alike – accountable for stoking violence and serving as obstacles to peace,” Biden said.

Considering there have been no consequences so far, I expect that this statement is true, in that he will continue to “hold them accountable” by not actually doing anything.

No, wait, it’ll probably be more money and weapons.

Zorsith ,
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No no, that was the consequences. He implied there is such a thing as an Israeli extremist. That’s it.

bec ,

Reuters not honest enough to write “killing” much less “murder”.

Worx ,

Oh, so now it’s important when someone gets killed over there

small44 ,

What are the reault of the previous investigations again?

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