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FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t understand what is significant about this.

FundMECFSResearch OP , (edited )

Classic dictator who claims his country is the best of all somehow has most his family and kids living/getting education abroad in countries the regime classifies as “enemy nations”.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Does Russia classify Switzerland as an enemy nation despite its famous neutral stance?

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

Ever since we put sanctions yes. And just like Austria, although “neutral” we were far more aligned and integrated with the west since the end of ww2. (Or Austria, since reunification).

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Well then I really don’t understand the significance since the child was born long before sanctions.

FundMECFSResearch OP , (edited )

to be fair russia only released that list after the invasion of ukraine. So we don’t know if switzerland was in it before.

Anyways, I find this news interesting, and given a couple people have upvoted, I’m a couple others do too, that’s enough for me, I’m not going to force you to find it interesting.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, you’re welcome to find an insignificant thing interesting. My question was about its significance. The answer is that it has none.

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

Significance isn’t that straightforward. Something can have lots of significance to one person and none to another.

Or lots of significance in relation to an event or ideology, or movement, but none to another.

Windex007 ,

Has your account been hacked?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No. Reports of my omniscience are greatly exaggerated.

NoForwardslashS ,

I too have wondered about a recent disturbance in the Squid.

ptrz5gbx32 ,

Because you are retarded

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

The Dossier Center, a website specialised in tracking the criminal activities of people connected to the Kremlin, has confirmed that one of the sons of Russian President Vladimir Putin was born in Switzerland in 2015. The report, published on Wednesday quoting an anonymous source working at Putin’s residence, said his long-term partner, Alina Kabaeva, delivered their first son at a clinic in Lugano, southern Switzerland.

The Dossier Center reportExternal link also provided rare insights into the living conditions of the couple’s two sons, now aged nine and five, at their residence on Lake Valdai, in central Russia.

Putin divorced his wife Lyudmila in 2013 but has never publicly acknowledged his relationship with Kabaeva, a former gymnast.

Their relationship has drawn a lot of media attention, including speculation on where their sons were born. In a report published in May 2022, Swiss newspaper SonntagsZeitungconfirmedExternal link that the couple had two sons, with the first one born in Switzerland. This information was never officially confirmed.

In an interview with SWI swissinfo.ch, Sergei Pugachev, a former advisor to Putin, indirectly confirmed the information. “Everyone in Russia knows that Alina Kabaeva is, so to speak, his wife since Putin’s divorce. And it would be normal she gave birth in Switzerland. His eldest children study abroad.”

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot ,

SWI - Swissinfo.ch - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for SWI - Swissinfo.ch:
> MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - Switzerland
> Wikipedia about this source

Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-affairs/russian-investigation-confirms-putins-son-was-born-in-switzerland/87496838

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FundMECFSResearch OP ,

Man swissinfo is swiss national service, government sponsored. How is it left center?

Aurenkin ,

Because the bias rating methodology of MBFC is a a joke.

FundMECFSResearch OP , (edited )

Switzerland has consistently had a center-right majority in govt since 20 years, so yeah this must be BS.

Though to be fair half of our center right majority would be equivalent to or even to the left of most democrats. Just so people in the US know how fucked their overton window is.

ChonkyOwlbear ,

I think it’s considered center left based on US politics. Our Overton window has shifted pretty far. The Swiss have universal healthcare and strict gun control. That can’t be right by US standards.

Aurenkin ,

It’s true that it’s based on US standards, but it’s also worth pointing out that the rating itself is completely arbitrary.

ptrz5gbx32 ,

It’s just useless

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

We may have “universal healthcare” in that everyone every legal resident following the law, the law saying you must purchase health insurance, is technically insured.

But we don’t have public insurance, it’s run by private companies at exorbitant prices with crazy premiums. And since we have such a large insurance /phara industry here, they are in the pockets of the government. Hell, the big insurance and big pharma companies even own shares in our national bank!

atzanteol ,

They aren’t controlled by the government though are they? Seems like they are funded by taxes but are an independent org.

And they publish how they come to their conclusions: mediabiasfactcheck.com/swi-swissinfo-ch/

FundMECFSResearch OP ,

Yes, that’s how national media in democratic countries work. UK’s BBC, France’s FranceInfo, Germany’s ZDF work similarly.

Aurenkin , (edited )

The problem is that it doesn’t matter if they publish how they came to their conclusions if how they come to their conclusions is nonsense. Your link is a perfect example. In the bias section there is a paragraph consisting mostly of cruft followed by two sentences attempting to justify a left rating:

Editorially, opinion pieces tend to slightly favor the left, such as this Adopt green hydrogen strategy now, Swiss cantons tell Bern. In general, SWI is fact-based and hold slight left-leaning editorial biases.

One opinion piece on green hydrogen is apparently enough justification for MBFC. I actually can’t even tell if it’s an opinion piece because it doesn’t seem to have the author’s opinion in it anywhere, it’s quoting reporting from elsewhere and a letter.

Doesn’t that seem pretty paper thin? I don’t think they even bother referencing any of the categories from their own methodology in this one.

I feel like I’m the only one that has actually read any of their bias justifications because after you read one I don’t see how can take them seriously at all. Maybe I’m missing something though, or I’m just going mad because lots of folks keep referring to MBFC as a serious organisation.

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