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HK65 ,

Didn’t Russia have a fuckton of amphibious APCs and IFVs and snorkels for tanks and whatever? Did they lose all of that?

peopleproblems ,

I wonder if this is another one of those perfect areas to waste Russian resources. I doubt they have an endless supply of temporary bridge materials and engineers to build them.

ghostdoggtv ,

Soviet security strategy always relied on maintenance of a buffer zone in which to contain any fighting. This war was lost the minute the Budapest accords were signed.

OlinOfTheHillPeople ,

Huh?

ghostdoggtv ,

I’m talking about Russia’s inability to defend territory.

OlinOfTheHillPeople ,

I don’t understand what you mean in regards to the Budapest Accords and a hypothetical buffer zone.

Bonesince1997 ,

3 “permanent” bridges

Aurenkin ,

It must make for very exciting bridge crossings. You’d never quite know if you’ll make it to the other side.

RamblingPanda ,

It’s like frogger, but completely different.

KevonLooney ,

Ukrainian forces were "striking pontoon bridges and engineering equipment in the western part of their operational zone

These engineers have a shit job if the military is forcing them to work under fire. Usually you try to defend the less armed part of the military (medics, command, engineers, supply) because that’s what really powers the organization. If you can’t defend your weak spots, you are going to lose.

ChicoSuave ,

Russia has proven that it can’t protect weak points because the entire military is a weak point. Can’t wait to see the military parade in May.

Treczoks ,

Can’t wait to see the military parade in May.

The parade with the one tank left in Russia?

tal ,

These engineers have a shit job if the military is forcing them to work under fire.

If Russia had the ability to force Ukrainian artillery and airpower out of range of the rivers, which is probably what it’d take to keep said engineers from having to work under fire, then I suspect that there wouldn’t be a need for a cross-river evacuation in the first place.

KevonLooney ,

Well I’m not an expert, but it’s possible to use cruise missiles and long range bombers to provide cover for the few days it might take to evacuate. Maybe they are busy blowing up apartment buildings and hospitals though.

thebestaquaman ,

The issue with cruise missiles and bombers as a response to artillery fire is the response time and air defences.

A cruise missile launched from well within Russia takes long enough to reach the target that mobile artillery has sufficient time to get out. You also need a significant amount of missiles if you want to get any through the air defences.

Bombers struggle to get in range for conventional bombs without being shot down. They also have the issue of response time.

Cruise missiles and bombers are more suited to rather stationary targets, like a command Center, FOB, strongpoint or trench system.

KevonLooney ,

Ok then, fighter-bombers or more artillery. If the bridge is in range of Ukrainian drones, then the drone base station is in range of counter fire.

HK65 ,

Cruise missiles and heavy bombers are strategic weapons and can’t really directly cover a retreat. They are good against power plants and bridges, not Serhiy with a Dragunov picking your guys off in the undergrowth.

geography082 ,

If you dig deep deep inside the dirt and rocks , eventually you will find the Balrog.

JesusSon ,
@JesusSon@lemmy.world avatar

“It’s still up…no it aint” - Some Russian General

jewbacca117 ,

“Artillery never hits the same spot twice” - Same Russian General

billiam0202 ,

He only said it once though. The second time was just a crater where he stood.

HubertManne ,

I know you don't mean it this way but I can't resist. https://youtu.be/aw_wouXS48U?t=23

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