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Ukrainian soldiers suspected they would invade Russia when they got new rifles, but still thought it was a joke when the orders came through

  • Ukrainian’s shock offensive on Russia’s Kursk region came as a surprise even to Ukraine’s soldiers.
  • “We joked that it wasn’t April 1st,” a Ukrainian soldier told The Economist.
  • The country’s troops did suspect that an invasion was imminent after they were issued new equipment.
JohnDClay ,

Op Sec was fantastic from Ukraine. With that and Russia ignoring what info on troop buildup they did have, they managed operational surprise.

small44 ,

Rome did something similar against hannibal

OutlierBlue ,

What? Handed out new rifles? I’m sure it was very effective.

small44 ,

Invading the enemy to force them to retrieve from part of their land

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index ,

“the orders to invade Russia”

If it’s true that there were orders from the top to invade russia and that soldiers where waiting for these it sounds like the government is giving out plans and commanding the army. The government of ukraine and people from ukraine are two different things. When people ask what’s the alternative to send billions to the ukrainian government what they need to understand is that people can defend themself even without an authority on top of them playing war games with soldiers and possibly forcing conscript to go on missions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#202…

FelixCress ,

Your point is?

IllNess ,

I it’s a tech bro trying to sell AI where the learning model is the Ukrainian people…

A few years ago this same guy tried to sell a blockchain weapons inventory system.

Before that crypto unlocked by biometrics just for soldiers so they can’t lose their money.

Before that war “hover boards” for easier mobility and more speed through the fields.

Before that pet rocks so soldiers won’t get lonely.

Aurenkin ,

No they cannot.

A disorderly mob is no more an army than a stack of building materials is a house.

  • Socrates

This is even more true today as the amount of technology and co-ordination required to field a successful force is many orders of magnitude more complex. It is truly insane to suggest that people can just ‘defend themselves’ against an army unless I’m grossly misunderstanding your point.

AbidanYre ,

the government is giving out plans and commanding the army

Yeah, that’s typically how the military works.

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