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barsoap ,

You did just call me that. I don’t know what it means.

And yet you comment on Israel. LMFAO. I already had you half-pegged as an Israeli but that definitely disqualifies you, you know nothing about Israel.

A lot of them had just moved there from a crazy situation in Russia. Why is it a crazy notion they want to live in peace?

Nothing, whatsoever. Where it becomes problematic is turning it into a colonial project. And no, early Zionists were not at all shy about calling what they were doing colonialism.

1920 is 30 years after the first settlement.

1920 is what the article you linked starts off with. It has pretty much nothing to do with Rischon LeZion.

You don’t explain why they were attacked and pillaged and I can’t find that. Other than Arab marauders have always looted and pillaged for hundreds of years?

Who got pillaged, when? And, yes, shit happens. The right course of action would’ve been to round up the perpetrators and put them before court. What the Idrun did, instead, was to bomb police stations and market places.


As to your insinuations of antisemitism: I’m German with Jewish roots. My grandfather barely survived the race laws. My aunt lives in Israel. I could grab my passport, fly to Israel, and get citizenship on arrival. My political stance regarding the whole thing can be best summed up as vaguely Labour-Zionist. You know, the kind of Israelis who get beaten up by Israeli police right now for protesting the genocide. The kind of people more concerned with pudding prices than killing Arabs.

There’s two things to understand if you ever want to see an end to the bloodshed in that area:

  1. There can be no Israeli security without Palestinian freedom
  2. There can be no Palestinian freedom without Israeli security

Fascists on both sides are happy to make sure neither of the two ever happens. They mutually depend on each other.

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