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mozz ,
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  1. I watched the video and honestly just this one dude standing in this unidentified location for unknown reasons with a patch that maybe looks like a Wagner patch if you zoom in and squint, doesn’t really mean anything.
  2. I had no particular opinion about the Venezuela elections and no idea that anyone in geopolitics cared, until some of the Lemmy propagandists who also don’t like Ukraine started going HARD that Maduro was the best and totally won and González was a tool of US imperialism and Elon Musk.
  3. Fact check bot? Where you at? I sorta want to know what’s up with this site I’ve never heard of
breakfastmtn ,
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They don’t have an MBFC page, which is a bit weird since according to their Wikipedia page they’ve been around for 26 years. I couldn’t find any bias rating info on them anywhere.

The story seems a bit sketchy. IntelliNews attributes the video to Jason Jay Smart – a political consultant and writer for the Kyiv Post. The video didn’t originate with him though. About 6 hours earlier it was posted by ‘The Spot News’ who are probably a fake news organization*. They don’t seem to have a web presence beyond that twitter account. Spot News was used as the source for this article from Defense-Blog that pre-dates the IntelliNews piece.

The earliest post with the video I can find is here from ‘Ukraine News 24 Hours’, who are also not really a news org and just link to a telegram account. They claim that they posted it but, who knows? Most references to the video describe it as “appearing online” without any attribution, which itself is a bit sketch. No one really reputable is reporting this (yet?).

  • Edit: by “fake news organization” I mean that they are not a real news organization, not that they are necessarily posting fake news (though they could be!)
Gsus4 OP ,
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If the video is fake or more verification by other outlets doesn’t show up, I’ll certainly take the post down.

mozz , (edited )
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Personally I don’t think it’s wrong to have it up; there is enough bullshit in the “factual” news that I think it’s okay if people see this interesting thing while still being aware of the context that maybe it is a weird mistake or means nothing at all. I was just - maybe for the first time - sort of actually wanting the bot to tell me more about this news source.

As a general rule, to me the model of “let me take the information and figure out for myself and based on comments whether I think it is well founded enough to take seriously” is better than “the mods and MBFC bot will keep me safe, anything untrustworthy should come down, anything that does stay up I can just accept uncritically because it’s had a stamp of being definitely trustworthy”.

unexposedhazard ,

I mean its an open secret that the US likes to meddle in Venezuelan politics with varying degrees of military force. So it makes sense to me that Russia would also want to be there just because of that.

morphballganon ,

Skull and crossbones patch?

Are we sure they’re not just gravy seals who bought some military surplus and decked them out with pirate patches?

somethingsnappy ,

CIA agents cosplaying as gravy seals in an uno reverse?

PhlubbaDubba ,

I mean if you’ve met some of the old boy shot callers who work with or for the CIA, yeah no they could totally pull the disguise with a wardrobe change and some fake sunburn makeup.

Most of the actual work that goes on there is data analysis, and that means tech workers, and that means the saged guru tech workers who live out of a single family home that’s less expensive than their home lab, their backup servers, their backup backup servers in a compound in montana, the backup backup backup servers in a bunker in New Zealand, and the thoroughbred they got for their horse girl daughter because these guys are usually also complete suckers for their kids or even younger siblings if there’s a wide enough age gap, as I found out that one such guru was technically the half brother of this girl I had AP microeconomics with.

somethingsnappy ,

I love how you go off the rails, I really do. There’s a lot I’d like to say, but probably shouldn’t.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Would you believe me if I told you my ability to tangent into subjects I know someone is interested in is part of how I got into it with my current SO?

somethingsnappy ,

I would, yes.

somethingsnappy ,

BRB, going to delete all my comments, and take your advice on firewalling my precious precious data.

DarkCloud ,

I think it’s obvious that Putin has to be killed in the name of global political stability.

Gsus4 OP , (edited )
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I’d rather have him tried and imprisoned at the Hague. He destroys institutions. Institutions must destroy him in the end, not guns.

PS: and before the tankies rush in with their whataboutisms: Sinwar, Netanyahu and Dubbya should be made an example of too.

FiniteBanjo ,

Wagner Group? Weren’t they part of the anti-Putin Faction when the war with Ukraine started to go downhill?

I would be surprised to learn they’re operating anywhere at all.

Blum0108 ,

They got folded back into the regime

PhlubbaDubba ,

If you’re a 40k fan familiar with the theory that the 2nd and 11th legions had their marines glommed into the Fists and Blueberries…

…that.

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