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Kebab war ignites as Germany fights Turkey over food protection

German producers have sparked a dispute by filing an opposition to a Turkish application to grant the döner kebab’s special status at the EU level, initiating a six-month period to resolve disagreements.

A Turkish application to the European Commission for the döner kebab to be given similar EU recognition as the Neapolitan pizza and Spain’s jamon serrano has been opposed by Germany, sources close to the issue have told Euronews.

As reported, in April Türkiye filed an application to register the name döner in Europe so that it can be used only by those producers conforming to the registered production method and product specifications.

bleistift2 ,

Döner Kebab isn’t even a Turkish specialty. In Turkey, Döner (referring to the meat that turns) is served on a plate with salad and bread. It’s not fast food like the German Döner Kebab, and it’s not meant to be taken to go.

Döner Kebab was invented in Germany by a Turkish immigrant whose traditional Döner didn’t fare well, because Germans were always in a hurry.

Or so the story goes that I heard in a documentary on German TV about 15 years ago.

Fener15243 ,

You don’t even know what a kebab is. The döner kebab is the meat itself. Putting something in bread doesn’t make it a kebab.

Your comment is a perfect example of why this protection is important. Besides, the majority of döner sold in Europe is just congealed meat. With this protection, döner would have to be prepared the authentic way.

bleistift2 ,

Indeed, I got the terminology wrong. „Kebap“ is the meat, „döner” means it turns.

barsoap ,

Besides, the majority of döner sold in Europe is just congealed meat.

Very much not the case in Germany. I’m not sure the German requirements are even that dissimilar to what Turkey came up with… which shouldn’t be surprising, they’re practically written by Turks in the sense that “this is what this thing means” in German food law is always based on “this is what good and proper cooks preparing it agree on”, and when the guidelines were set those all happened to have been Turkish immigrants.

Not to mention that the industry association complaining are precisely those Turkish immigrants.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Eh Australian style doner kebabs or just kebabs as we call them a fast food and not connected to Germany in any way.

I’d wager over 300 years the Turks figured out how to wrap meat in bread. We’re all just doing variations of that.

As for the word, it’s their word. They deserve the same ability to enforce a standard behind it as the EU does champagne and that shit.

StaySquared ,

Döner Kebab

This can be eaten in different ways… not just a salad. And in the U.S., in Dearborn (Muslim/Arab majority city), this is part of the fast food category, like when asking for a Doner Kabob (Turkish lamb) sandwich.

xmunk ,

If it was invented in Germany then how do you explain Halifax Sauce? /s

checkmate bitches

Blizzard ,

Kebab Wars: Germany Strikes Back

rooster_butt ,

Begun the Kebab Wars have.

mysticpickle ,

This is the equivalent of China asking for exclusive rights to General Tso’s Chicken in the US. Shitty Chinese food is our exclusive domain you damn commies! 🦅

CodexArcanum ,

Being from Louisiana, it was interesting to spend some time in Berlin. Germans treat Turkish people a lot like we treat Black people: love their food and culture, but keep them in ghettos and don’t let them have any real power!

I feel like this would be similar to America protecting the word “Cajun” in food, which shitty fastfood places love to slap on any food they’ve added a half-gram of cayenne powder to. Honestly, all in favor of restricting “cajun” or “döner” or any other food designation for which being regulated would enforce a higher quality standard and greater authenticity.

tobogganablaze ,

The opposition to the propsel is comming from the “Association of Turkish kebab makers in Europe” …

CodexArcanum ,

So what? I can’t find the slightest bit of info on who this organization is or who makes it up or who leads it.

tobogganablaze ,

I translated the name, try searching for “Verein Türkischer Dönerhersteller in Europa”.

But really the name is self explanatory.

The dish “Döner Kebab” was invented in Germany by Turkish migrants and became very popular. Now a group from Turkey is trying to enforce their definitions and regulations of what a Döner Kebab should be on our dish.

This has nothing to do with German people or government denying power to German-Turks. This is German Turks fighting back against Turkish-Turks trying to interfere with their buisnes.

Like image some activists in Italy would demand that the US government ban the word pizza unless it’s refering to italian-style pizza.

JASN_DE ,

Because it seems like most don’t actually read the article:

The sources said that the German ministry made its case following feedback and positions submitted by several associations of German producers, adding that resistance to the Turkish application reflected the stance of German producers rather than the German government.

magikmw ,

Polish kebab joints in shambles.

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