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over_clox ,

Wake up babe, the world is rapidly falling apart, but I got us some paper straws, so we should be okay…

partial_accumen ,

We absolutely need to address the underlying causes of climate change. However, thats likely not going to be enough for people on the ground.

I just checked my solar panel production and its currently covering all the house electricity consumption (including Air Conditioning), and also pushing back 6kW to the grid. I think systems like this may need to become the norm for all houses with the continued instability of the grid now and in the future.

FelixCress ,

This. The issue is with the networks and storage. It is quite often the case that enough electricity is produced just in the wrong place and time.

Fades ,

We absolutely need to address the underlying causes of climate change.

Guess what happens if the Rs win in November

Gakomi ,

I think George Carlin had the best take regarding climat change if I’m not mistaken and it was something along the lines of, “no the planet is not dying we are the planet will be fine after us” and I have to agree have you seen the movies in which humanity dies and the planet it’s just natural taking over everywhere, that what’s going to happend, we will fuck things up untill we die from our own stupidity and then the planet will heal herself!

Infernal_pizza ,
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Except we’ll take countless other species with us (on top of the ones we’ve already wiped out)

FlyingSquid ,
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The destruction of the human species is a farce. The destruction to the rest of the ecosphere we’re responsible for is the real tragedy.

reddig33 ,

The grid needs to be decentralized. More solar on rooftops and neighborhood backup batteries. This would help level out demand.

partial_accumen ,

In other parts of the world this is fairly affordable. In the USA its astronomically higher. I speak from firsthand experience. When installed its wonderful, but is really pricey up-front, and just a small fraction of Americans are both homeowners, and can afford to buy these systems. The Inflation Reduction Act brings the price down from 10x the cost of other nations to just 7x the cost. Its an improvement, but not enough to make these systems widely available to all household budgets.

reddig33 ,

Rooftop solar panels should be offered for free by either the local government or the power company at this point.

partial_accumen ,

local government = revenue from taxes. If the home owners don’t have the money to buy solar, being taxed enough by the local government to pay for solar isn’t going to work either.

power company = nearly all are either co-ops (owned by the consumers) where you’d get the same problem with taxing, or private companies which are for-profit driven industries.

reddig33 ,

I’m wondering how many residential solar panels our current oil and gas subsidies could fund. Wishful thinking I suppose.

partial_accumen ,

If you’re actually interested in affecting change, you’re going to need to do more than say “someone else should pay for it”. Even more if you’re saying “something I don’t support is getting money, and I want that money to go to the thing I support instead”. Unless you happen to be an authoritarian dictator where your will is law, you have to work within the system if you want change. So far I’m not seeing what you’re posting as a path that will become reality.

If I’ve mistaken your intentions and you just want to have someone else solve the big problem without addressing any of the smaller problems that creates, then I supposed your work is done. Carry on.

ShepherdPie ,

Power companies are beginning to force costs and fees onto solar users because they don’t make any money off of them and are still required to maintain service to the residence. It’s kind of a slap in the face considering how many governments are trying to entice citizens to add it, but C.R.E.A.M. and all that…

tomkatt ,

Not sure what the price is elsewhere, but I got 6.4 kW solar panels and a 10kW battery backup last year, and the cost was $33k USD. This was in U.S. Midwest (Colorado) and with a local (not National) Solar provider.

I paid cash to avoid the 6% rate loan and additional fees, and I received a $9k tax credit for it this year, bringing the total cost down to $24k. I think this is an expense beyond many Americans, especially since this system could take over a decade to pay for itself, if it does at all.

No point here, just figured I’d point it out so people are aware of the cost. And bear in mind, this is a small system, in a small (just over 1k sq/ft) home.

IphtashuFitz ,

Just finished installing a 11kw system with 2 Powerwalls in MA and it was closer to $70k. Rebates, tax credit, etc. will help a lot though.

FlyingSquid ,
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So keep burning that coal.

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