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Dempf ,

I mean, scandals like this and “chabuduo” attitude putting health & safety at risk is really nothing new in China. I agree with you in general that certain parts of China are in decline / potential to collapse. Especially economy & environment. But speaking from a U.S. perspective, other aspects are enviable, like public transit.

I’m just saying that I wouldn’t necessarily hold this specific incident up as an example of collapse.

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