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Gaza peace talks at 'dead end' as Israel rejects permanent truce

A senior Israeli official said on Saturday that negotiations over a ceasefire deal with Hamas have reached a dead end, with Israel unwilling to support a permanent ceasefire and the withdrawal of its forces from Gaza.

The Israeli official made further comments blaming Hamas for the impasses, echoing the language of Israeli and US officials that “the ball is Hamas’s court” and that stopping the war is in their hands.

Despite this rhetoric, Israel has not accepted the ceasefire proposal announced by Biden in May, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stating clearly that Israel does not support a permanent ceasefire.

Israel’s demand appears to be for Hamas to release all the hostages right now in exchange for a temporary ceasefire, while Biden’s proposal involved a phased release of hostages in exchange resulting in temporary ceasefires that would ultimately lead to a permanent truce.

Since Biden announced his peace proposal, Israel’s violence in Gaza has increased, with Tel Aviv carrying out several massacres, including two on Saturday that killed at least 42 Palestinians after Israel struck two residential areas of Gaza City.

Nobody ,

US, Egypt, Qatar, and every sane nation: Let’s end this war now.

Hamas: We’ll give Israel everything they want if they will end the war.

Israel: Fuck you. Give us everything we want, and we’ll still kill you all.

US and Israel: We’re not sure why Hamas is being so unreasonable, but it looks like no ceasefire.

machineLearner ,

rinse and repeat for 9 months

sunzu , (edited )

Israel did not start this bullshit [not to] finish the removal. Get real, that's what we are getting.

Real question is where are these people going or we just gonna let Israel massacre them at the Egyptian border?

ModernRisk ,
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Israel did not start this bullshit no top finish the removal. Get real, that’s what we are getting.

I don’t really understand what you’re saying/ writing honestly. If you mean that Israel didn’t start this entire thing, I’d say, I disagree. Due to the history of how Israel become an actual state (1948, 750 000 displaced, lots of Palestinian murdered and many other atrocities). Not to mention the ongoing apartheid system, illegal settlers and such.

Real question is where are these people going or we just gonna let Israel massacre them at the Egyptian border?

That’s one of the main problems. If other countries let the Palestinian people in their country it’s a free-ticket for far-right extremist Israel to steal everything from the Palestinian land. Which is a no-no.

But if nothing is done, Israel will just keep bombing Gaza which results in innocent Palestinians being murdered by Israel.

So here we are; majority of the countries doing nothing, Palestinians being murdered and lots of protests around the world.

sunzu ,

They started this whole thing in early 20th century with implicit plan to remove locals from the land.

This is just them finishing the job vis a vis Gaza, West Bank is next.

anlumo ,

It’s a bit hard to negotiate peace when both parties would rather die than stop attacking.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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Hamas: Let’s have a permanent ceasefire

Israel: No we can bomb kill Palestinians infinitely with American bombs and barely risk our own lives

You: Nobody wants peace because they would rather die

ModernRisk ,
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.> The Israeli official made further comments blaming Hamas for the impasses, echoing the language of Israeli and US officials that “the ball is Hamas’s court” and that stopping the war is in their hands.

Did Hamas not accept a deal before while Israel (I assume their PM) rejected it? Found the article: Hamas accepts UN ceasefire resolution, ready to negotiate over details, official says

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stating clearly that Israel does not support a permanent ceasefire.

Israel blaming Hamas for not having a ceasefire or any deal and then this written in the article.

Israel’s demand appears to be for Hamas to release all the hostages right now in exchange for a temporary ceasefire

I mean any sane person would understand Hamas won’t accept this. This means they lose all negotiation ‘material’ (could not find a better word, apologies). The deal should be something along lines of; release of all hostages and a permanent ceasefire.

Hamas has said it will only support a deal that includes a permanent ceasefire

Exactly this. They are willing to accept a deal, it is Israel who does not want to accept anything.

retrospectology ,
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Israel’s entire position when negotiating is essentially “We won’t agree to anything until the other party we’re negotiating with is destroyed forever.” and then they turn around and blame Hamas for the impasse.

They can’t accept any deal because they set an impossible goal for themselves that can’t be reached without killing or driving out every single Palestinian.

DancingBear ,

Correction. Netanyahu can’t accept any deal because he will immediately lose power and likely go to jail for corruption and fraud, when he steps down or is voted out of office his ongoing criminal trials will resume.

Remember at the beginning of the war when the propaganda rhetoric talking point for the genocide was…… but Hamas wants to destroy Israel state.

Everything is a projection.

retrospectology ,
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Hamas is not demanding the destruction of the Israel state in these negotiations, no. They don’t have the power to do that whether it’s what they want or not.

You don’t have to be on the side of Hamas to understand that they’re not the ones holding up a resolution to the genocide in Gaza. They’ve been at the table for all these negotiations and the only demand they have for release of the hostages is withdrawl from Gaza and a permanent cease fire. Israel’s refusal to accept that means they have no intention of stopping the genocide or stopping their pursuit of the total destruction of Hamas after a temporary ceasefire.

Yes, it’s true that Netanyahu is avoiding a resolution to the genocide in order to stay in power, he’s doing that by making the only terms he will accept in the negotiation to include further annhiliation of the other negotiating party. Which is obviously impossible to accept, thats not a negotiation, Hamas are not going to agree to just off themselves or w/e.

boyi ,

This means they lose all negotiation ‘material’ (could not find a better word, apologies).

maybe leverage or bargaining chip

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