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Drusas ,

Anyone with even the slightest awareness of the situation knows that the drills are far more about China.

sik0fewl , (edited )

“Mixed” from MediaBiasFactCheck.

Edit: updated sources and removed personal commentary in response to comments.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Because they once published an anti-GMO story in 2016? That’s literally what mediabiasfactcheck says lol

sik0fewl ,

I know a lot of people here trust MBFC. I should have included the link (and left out my own analysis) - mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-out/.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Again, literally one story in the past 15 years. Doesn’t really make sense to me

sik0fewl ,

Removed my commentary from original comment. And linked to source.

You’re right - I need to do my own research on MBFC. (And for for what it’s worth I did spot check some popular orgs I do know :).

sik0fewl ,

Hey - it’s me from that thread. Thanks for calling out my bullshit. I just deferred to MBFC without much diligence.

I did see that there was a GMO story - and totally missed that it was just ONE story. If I’ve learned anything, it’s to read into MBFC ratings.

Anyway - thanks for calling me out and thanks for not being an asshole.

MyPornViewingAccount ,

Was this article written by Tankies?

Who believes this garbage?

Telodzrum ,

The author of the Op-Ed is a known DPRK sympathizer and has a history of fact-free anti-defense “activism.” So, yeah kinda.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Any info on this? I’ll delete the article if true, but a quick Google search didn’t show much

wurzelgummidge ,

Tankies = An easy word for people of limited intellect and vocabulary to describe others who think critically and question the motives and honesty of US/Nato mouthpieces instead of merely parroting them.

maynarkh ,

Tankies = A word describing people who are supporting authoritarian regimes masquerading under an ever thinner veil of communism, originally against other non-authoritarian communists, suppressing communist revolutions with tanks for the personal cult of Stalin.

Also known as the people who manage to question the imperialistic motives of US leadership, then for some reason fail to have the intellectual capacity to question the imperialistic motives of the Chinese/Russian leadership.

wurzelgummidge ,

The US blankets the world with military bases, refuses to ratify over 40 international treaties and has been meddling in other countries elections for the last hundred years. If they don’t get their way they impose sanctions, organise a coups and commence other destabilisation efforts.

Americans have been manipulated by their media for just as long and cannot tolerate any news source that is not part of the US/Nato approved propaganda bubble because it makes them feel bad. And then we see Biden banging his his pulpit and saying, “American must lead the world in the 21st century.”

Damn right I question US imperialistic motives. The 85% of the world, that is not the US or its poodles, don’t want American leadership. You cant even lead yourselves.

maynarkh ,

I’m not from the US, I am from a country that has “enjoyed” Russian leadership and invasions for 200 years, and is also now falling to the Russian sphere of influence.

The thing is, the Americans are corrupt bullies, but the Russians are not one bit better themselves.

Americans have been manipulated by their media for just as long and cannot tolerate any news source that is not part of the US/Nato approved propaganda bubble because it makes them feel bad.

Yes, US corpo media is shit, but my dude, have you lived in a place where Russian-style media was dominant? US corpo media is patronizing and evil, Russian media is just batshit insane.

Again, the US being shit does not mean that Russians are one bit better. My people’s experience is that the Yanks bomb your house, the Ruskies rape your daughters and take everything from you. All of them can fuck right back off. Especially the ones who try to cozy up by saying the other is worse.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

least delusional westerners be like

maynarkh ,

I am not a “westerner”, the word “Tankie” was literally invented to describe people who cheered on as the USSR crushed a revolution of my grandparents’ generation who were communists against vanguardism and Soviet Russian imperialism in Eastern Europe. It is a slur against people who were cheering for Soviet tanks against communists.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

you sound like the stereotypical anti-left westerner. most soviet grandpas were fond of russian socialism, especially in the balkans ironically. but i dont think anybody is claiming it to be perfect.

you seem to forget the little nazi problem they had at the time, no?

you also forget how the us is putting pressure all around the undeveloped world to keep us fucked, and all the red scare propaganda you guys put out through your media empire.

maynarkh ,

The Balkans were mostly never part of the Warsaw Pact, much less the USSR. IDK how life under Tito was, but it’s not what I’m talking about.

Communist is still a swear word in most of Eastern Europe. The US never really had anything to do with my area’s development, the Soviets took whatever and whoever they could, though. In the generation above mine, a ton of people have family stories about relatives going for malenkiy robot never to be seen again. Doorbell scare was a thing as well. People were absolutely tortured to death, genocided, taken away, robbed, and so on.

Nobody sane wishes for going back to the Warsaw Pact. And not because we had less money. Ironically, the few who are nostalgic liked the economy being more stable. The part everyone hated was the repression, the killings, the disappearances, the fear.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

What?? You should look into how the US heavily invested in red scare propaganda and fascist think tanks in those places, after the soviets. Might give you an answer on how people this generation came to hate it, but the vast majority of them living at the time liked it.

Also you don’t happen to be a nazi-adjacent decsendant do you? I hear those got rightfully terrorized. Same way how rich people now will insist they are the poor oppressed minorities.

I guess you don’t remember the shock therapy that made the balkans all hate eachother.

maynarkh ,

Dude, the Balkans were non-aligned, they were never part of the Warsaw pact. Yes, the US did awful things there, but as far as I’ve heard from people who actually escaped the Yugoslav wars, nothing there was clear-cut. That said, it’s not what I’m talking about, the Balkans is not Eastern Europe, and Tito is not the USSR.

What I’m talking about is the Warsaw Pact, the socialist republics in a military and economic alliance with the Soviet Union.

Also you don’t happen to be a nazi-adjacent decsendant do you?

You couldn’t be further from the truth.

And I am sure all the people at Katyn, and all the people taken from their homes, and all the Jewish people who owned large flats in Budapest, and all the people just picked off the street, and all the people in the crowd when State Security fired into it, especially the students, and the previous chairman of the country’s communist party were all nazis or US plants or whatever.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

like how you just gloss over the post-soviet us atrocities in there when its to blame for most of the problems there today.

the balkans were part of russia at the time lol, and yugoslavia was fucked the most at the tail end/post soviet era.

and yes, a lot of us meddling over there, just like it happened in my own country, or all over the planet after ww2 for that matter.

im not claiming history to be black and white here but even language over there is similar as fuck to eachother in some cases, but they were artifiially separated and made to be enemies in the saddest way.

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