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umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

may god have mercy on his soul

he helped to show more of the evil these people are capable of

PoliticallyIncorrect ,

I have never understood why Assange did not take a direct flight to China right after doing what he did, at least there he could have had a happy life

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

Oh boy, here comes the pro russian brigade to talk about poor julian assange, hero of freedom and truth, who refused to leak russian secrets while leaking US secrets and took a paid gig on RT while actively trying to sway the 2016 election for Putin.

Cry more you bitch baby tankies. May he die in custody while you helplessly watch.

bigMouthCommie ,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

>actively trying to sway the 2016 election for Putin.

that's not true. why would you lie about that?

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/ecuador-response-assange-wikileaks/index.html

Sweetie that was link one for googling 2016 election jullian assange

I understand that you have to lie, but i want you to understand just how stupid your malignant lies are in the face of the internet.

Cope, you inbred piece of shit.

bigMouthCommie ,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

>refused to leak russian secrets

he has editorial standards, just like any journalist should.

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

He's gonna die in jail and you can't stop it, tankie.

bigMouthCommie ,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

baby, i'm an anarchist

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

You're the shittiest anarchist I've ever seen, and I am one shitty anarchist. Take the russian dictator's cock out of your mouth when you talk, you're embarrassing yourself on the internet.

TWeaK ,

He didn’t leak Russian secrets because it wasn’t newsworthy. “Of course Russia is corrupt.” Also perhaps he hoped they might provide him more dirt on the US.

Assange is not aligned with Russia and has nothing to do with tankies. Frankly, you’re the biggest extremist here, saying a journalist should rot in prison for what he published. Shameful.

doublejay1999 ,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

You’d think theyd figure he’s served his time by now.

What a sadistic regime.

Much in common with how Russia treated Navalny

Rapidcreek OP ,

theguardian.com/…/julian-assange-wikileaks-plea-d…

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

Ok.

Gork ,

The issue I had with WikiLeaks is that it wasn’t a Wiki, despite its name. You couldn’t edit it, which is the fundamental point of a Wiki!

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

It’s because is doesn’t come from the wiki of Wikipedia, but from the wiki from Hawaiian language that means fast, it had fast leaks.

ShadowRam ,

not be entitled to rely on the First Amendment right to free speech as a non-U.S. national and that, while none of the existing charges carried the death penalty, he could later be charged with a capital offence such as treason

So he's not a US Citizen and yet get charged with treason?

Rapidcreek OP ,

The US has to be at war to charge treason.

Treczoks ,

Obviously, exposing American war crimes is treason regardless who commits it.

catloaf ,

And no matter where you are, or where you have citizenship, we will extradite you to the US and execute you!

Mango ,

Extradite Putin.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

And again I will say that America’s hypocrisy on whistleblowers is stupid beyond belief. In books and movies whistleblowers are cheered on, but in rl they are vilified beyond compare.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

That is the UK court’s concern, but I don’t see how he could possibly be convicted of that in the US given he’s not an American national. Sounds like the UK court just wants assurances he will not face any capital charges regardless of how flimsy the charges may be.

Rapidcreek OP , (edited )

It’s like any other country. When you set feet on US ground you are under US law. All the laws. Doesn’t matter if you are a foreign national or not.

Edit: if any of you travel internationally you would know this. At least I hope you would.

520 ,

Assange was never in the US when he leaked the documents.

Rapidcreek OP ,

That doesn’t matter. Charges are in a sealed indictment. I doubt they have anything to do with his publication. He helped Chelsea Manning hack into a US military server. That’s esponge and computer theft. But, it is not known what the charges are because they are sealed.

520 ,

It does though. As someone who isn't a US citizen, resident or visitor, he isn't subject to US laws.

What he is subject to is the laws of the country he was residing in, and any extradition treaties they have with the US. What he allegedly did was a crime there too, which is important as most countries will not extradite if what the subject did wasn't criminal in both countries, if they were still in the request-recipient country at the time.

Rapidcreek OP ,

No, if he is extradited he answers the charge. If he is in a country that has a prior charge then the respective justice departments work out who has priority. In this case he was already charged in Britan before being indicated in the US with extradition requested

NOT_RICK , (edited )
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

To my knowledge, Carlisle v. United States establishes that non-U.S. citizens are beholden to US treason laws only if and during the time that they resided within the US which I believe Assange never has. I’m positive other charges will apply to him but I’m specifically talking about capital offenses.

Rapidcreek OP ,

I don’t believe treason is applicable. But, it’s not unusual for some countries, Britain included, to question US charges on extradition. They don’t believe in the death penalty. Since the indictment is sealed, they don’t know.

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