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Sanctus ,
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It is time to realize that most governments are bought and paid for. The show will continue until the stage is aflame and the actors have all transformed into fuel. The only way we’re getting out of this with a portion of us alive is if we forcefully remove the oligarchs and their opulent 1400 masters.

Pussydogger ,

At least we have democracy and freedom to do this!

Allah forbids if it was China

afraid_of_zombies , (edited )

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    silence7 OP ,

    Funny how I never see this message about right-wing blockades or football games

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Funny how you didn’t learn by age 4 that two wrongs don’t make a right.

    tsonfeir ,
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    I think what they’re trying to say is, “wake up, humanity is going extinct.”

    It’s hard to say that when you let people mindlessly pass.

    I do agree that no one should block emergency vehicles.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    It’s hard to say that when you let people mindlessly pass.

    Letters to the editor, pamphlets, peaceful protests with permits, blogs, social media, paid public service announcements…

    Plenty of ways to get your views out there that don’t involve murder.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Well, none of those work as we can see from their failures.

    • Editors can bin it.
    • people don’t have to read blogs
    • people don’t have to social media
    • people don’t have to listen to PSAs.

    I’m certainly not advocating for blocking an emergency vehicle, but I would argue there is a reasonably short list of people who, if removed, would greatly help the cause.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Well, none of those work as we can see from their failures.

    Clearly. Legal peaceful protest has never accomplished anything in democracy. Nope. Not once. The only way any law has ever been passed in the nearly hundred democracies across the planet earth is when people block ambulances. That’s it. If you think your government passed some law last week you are mistaken. True on the local level as well. Your town of 1,000 people would love to install a new water fountain in the park but can’t do it until some people block an ambulance. I am and all of democracy is defeated. Rip up all the rules about free speech and protest since not one of them has ever worked in the history of the entire human race!

    Do you have an opinion about anything? Block an ambulance and cause someone to die. Since all other possible means of convincing people won’t work since “Well, none of those work as we can see from their failures.”.

    Does anything else not work? Maybe food doesn’t work and we all should have starved long ago.

    Burn_The_Right ,

    Legal peaceful protest has never accomplished anything in democracy. Nope. Not once.

    I’m glad we can agree on something!

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    We don’t. That was hyperbolic sarcasm.

    Burn_The_Right ,

    As was my reply. Fight fire with fire. The ending is near.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Eye for an eye leaves the world blind and frankly I am getting annoyed by you advocating murder like it is no big deal.

    Burn_The_Right ,

    I do not advocate for murder at all. I advocate for resisting oppression. Sorry to annoy you with my will to live.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    And now the goalposts are being moved. Hope you didn’t block an ambulance while you did it.

    Sorry to annoy you with my will to live.

    Me as well. I very much want to know if I or someone I love or heck even someone I hate is in an ambulance someone wearing oil derived fibers won’t be blocking the road.

    Burn_The_Right , (edited )

    Let’s see… Goalposts being moved? You accused me of advocating for murder then apparently equated blocking a roadway with committing murder. Neat. Glad you aren’t in charge of making laws. You’d have broke down motorists on death row for treason or some shit.

    You and I have something in common, though. I don’t want protestors blocking roadways. I don’t even want them protesting. Protesting just puts targets on their backs for conservatives to attack them. We are past the time for protests. Action is required now. Not protest. Action.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    It is murder. When you create a situation where death will occur and are repeatedly warned that a->b you are a murderer. Now if some fancy lawyer type wants to call it negligent homicide or something they are welcome to. Still murder and in my eyes at least probably should be considered terrorism as well.

    Now let’s dive into what you call an argument. Is a broken down motorist the same exact thing as a person blocking an ambulance, repeatedly, being informed that they are blocking an ambulance, and even after being informed continues to do so? No? Ok so if two things are not the same why are you strawmaning me into making them the same?

    Action

    You are really going to make it easier for the prosecution later during your trial for setting off some explosives.

    federatingIsTooHard ,
    @federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world avatar

    Is a broken down motorist the same exact thing as a person blocking an ambulance, repeatedly, being informed that they are blocking an ambulance, and even after being informed continues to do so?

    that’s never happened

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Now you’re just rambling. I already said blocking an ambulance is bad—we agree. But you said murder was bad, and while I typically agree in the case of innocent people, there may be a reasonably short list of people in powerful positions who might benefit the world from not existing… not that I’m advocating for that or anything.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    You said that peaceful protest doesn’t work as well. I was addressing that since it is so inaccurate I felt compelled to point that out.

    Murder is always bad, killing a person is the absolute last option and only to stop them from killing another person immediately, not theoretically, not in decades. If we aren’t able to have moral means to achieve moral ends we don’t deserve moral ends.

    Your best bet is if you care about these issues is go get employment in the waste/pollution/garbage/environmental sector. Plenty of jobs available, you get to make a difference, the pay is pretty good, and you don’t fucking murder people by blocking ambulances. I have shitty days at work like everyone else, even a shitty day I know I made the world that much cleaner and it was worth it.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Waste management is not a career that will prevent humanity from going extinct.

    You cannot see the forest through the trees, and you’re the kind of person they’re blocking traffic to reach.

    I’m sorry you’re inconvenienced by the extinction.

    Goodbye.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Waste management is not a career that will prevent humanity from going extinct.

    An ocean is just a multitude of drops.

    You cannot see the forest through the trees

    You talk on the internet and I have well over a hundred air scrubbers under my belt.

    and you’re the kind of person they’re blocking traffic to reach.

    They are trying to reach the guy who limits meat consumption, only drives when no other options are available, and has spent almost their entire career doing what he can to lower air, soil, and water pollution? Thats like coal to Newcastle on roids.

    and you’re the kind of person they’re blocking traffic to reach.

    And I am sorry you won’t even condemn ambulance blocking.

    Goodbye

    Bye. Try not to murder a kid on the way out while wearing fibers made from oil.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I have condemned ambulance blocking in nearly every one of my comments. Clearly you have no interest in engaging in a conversation. Blocked.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Nah. Go ahead and block me like you did with those ambulances

    dhcmrlchtdj__ ,
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    It almost sounds like you’ve been fantasizing about this happening to you

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Oh look a mind reader. Sorry not sorry I called your besties out for their crimes.

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