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cupcakezealot ,
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ignoring the fact that likud and netanyahu have funded hamas in order to destroy the pro peace palestinian left doesn’t make it more likely either

philo OP ,

Wrong. Qatar funded Hamas. Netanyahu indeed allowed it but that is because he stupidly thought that by allowing Qatar to give Hamas millions every month they would focus on governing. Either he was taking some really strong drugs or he was just plain stupid cause a leopard never changes its spots.

snek ,
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I don’t like Hamas, but just a reminder that it’s very legal to fight against an illegal occupation.

Either he was taking some really strong drugs or he was just plain stupid cause a leopard never changes its spots.

Neither, it seems. I don’t think he was taking any drugs. His plan was clear: divide Palestinians then conquer their lands.

bigMouthCommie ,
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this is propaganda. it is funded primarily by universities with ties to the Pentagon.

philo OP ,

The Conversation is propaganda? You have been reading too many comic books.

snek ,
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No, seems like an overall okay place. But this particular article seems like propaganda. I think that’s what that person meant.

TokenBoomer ,

The authors are Zionists.

Ilan Baron:

Jewish Diaspora and Zionism

Ilan Saltzman:

n addition to his affiliation with the University of Maryland, Ilai Saltzman is a board member with Mitvim – The Israeli Institute for Regional Foreign Policies is a think tank based in Israel.

bigMouthCommie ,
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shocked, shocked I tell you

Candelestine ,

It’s a legit argument. Though I would counter by saying it was hamas’ goal to further strengthen the right-leaning elements in Israeli society, and it was successful in that regard.

Netanyahu was in a very ugly position, and it was looking like he might finally be succumbing to his own corruption, which would open things up for his leftist opposition. The leftist opposition wanted peace, while Palestinian militants did not want peace, they wanted a continuation of violence. The best way to secure the continuation of violence and halt any peace progress was to empower the Israeli far-right towards ultra-violence, to further inflame the whole region towards a future of war.

So that’s what they did, to wild success.

Regardless, blaming all of Israel is unproductive. The real blame should fall on the Israeli Netanyahu government, and far-right settler movement.

Before Netanyahu took over, the Israeli military was evicting their own settlers, which Netanyahu put a stop to, if memory serves:

youtu.be/ZSGjBr_c_QM

philo OP ,

The point isn’t legitimacy. Here is a little something for you to read

Candelestine ,

Good thing we’re on a service fighting back against algorithmic control in the service of greater profits, where more nuanced takes are not buried by algorithm-served emotional sound-bites.

TokenBoomer ,

Article written by Nir Eiskovitz, also a Zionist.

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