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Israel and Hamas closer to ceasefire deal amid warning over Gaza children

Israel and Hamas appear to be inching closer towards a deal for a ceasefire and a release of some of the hostages still being held by the militant group in Gaza, while the UN children’s agency has warned that 17,000 children have been left without families or been separated from them by the conflict.

Qatar, which has been mediating between Israel and Hamas, indicated that the militant group had given its initial support for a deal after weeks of delicate and secretive negotiations.

However, while an aide to Hamas’s political leader said the group had received details of the proposed deal, it had yet to reply.

A Qatari official later clarified to Reuters that there was “no deal yet” and that although “Hamas has received the proposal positively”, Qatar was “waiting for their response”.

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autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Taher al-Nono, an adviser to the Qatar-based Hamas politburo chief, Ismail Haniyeh, said: “We cannot say the current stage of negotiation is zero and at the same time we cannot say that we have reached an agreement.”

According to reports in the Hebrew media and elsewhere, women, children and sick and elderly prisoners being held by Hamas would be released first, then female soldiers in the second phase, which would also result in an increase in humanitarian aid being allowed into Gaza by Israel.

Israeli ministers have been quick to voice opposition to the length of the proposed ceasefire, arguing that it would make it more difficult for Israel to return to offensive operations against Hamas.

With hundreds of thousands of people crammed into the city, many living in tents in unsanitary conditions and with little access to aid or medical care, on Friday the UN’s humanitarian office described Rafah as a “pressure cooker of despair”.

“I want to emphasise our deep concern about the escalation of hostilities in Khan Younis, which has resulted in an increase in the number of internally displaced people seeking refuge in Rafah in recent days,” said Jens Laerke, a spokesperson for the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

Laerke said: “Khan Younis has also come increasingly under attack and it’s been shocking to hear about the heavy fighting in the vicinity of the hospitals, jeopardising the safety of medical staff, the wounded and sick, as well as thousands of internally displaced people seeking refuge there.

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tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Anything to stop the fighting long enough to at least try to negotiate seriously.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

That was tried in the last pause deal. Israel isn't gonna settle for peace until they can't (or are made unable to) continue their war.

shalafi ,

What does a serious negotiation look like though? I can’t see any path forward that makes anyone happy. Best we can hope for is a fragile peace that can, and will be, shattered at any moment.

It’s in the best interest of the Arab world to keep Palestine under Israel’s thumb. It’s like abortion in America for Republicans, a fight they don’t want to win. Why would Arabs agree to anything that sucks fuel from the hate/terrorism machine?

It’s in the West’s best interest to keep Israel independent of Arab influence. Alexander Haig said it better than I could:

“Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security.”

I’ve asked around on lemmy and the best answer I’ve heard is, “Two state solution!” I’m all about it. But it ain’t happening. Because of my two points above.

It’s all so hopeless I could cry. What a clusterfuck. Guess it’s a temporary and fragile peace. Again.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Well no, there is no solution. The only way is to compromise, and it’s unlikely either of them are going to agree to that. Even if we ignore foreign influences, these are two groups of people who have been fighting so long that it’s their entire life. There’s so much hate, justified or not, that can never be quenched. Israel definitely has the military advantage, and should be ashamed about how it’s using it. But give Hamas the same firepower and they’d be doing the same thing. Everything is revenge for an act of revenge. Most of this is fueled by religious ideology, which gives people a lot of justification for their actions. Ultimately, the only one to blame is the British.

BNE ,
@BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

There is a solution. One state for everyone. Palestine.

So long as there is a settler-colonial ethno-state occupying the land - there won’t be peace, because peace is antithetical to the process of colonizing Palestine.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Well that won’t happen. Israel isn’t gonna give up power or land. Neither side will be willing to coexist without concessions that the other won’t agree to.

I’m not siding with Israel… I’m just making a prediction.

BNE ,
@BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s very different to saying there’s no solution.

Apartheids don’t like being told to stop feeding on the blood and resources their hosts - of course, that’s very true. But the cat is out of the bag. The apartheid will fall and the lands of Palestine will regrow - the question is now how long it will take and how many innocent people Israel will kill before it implodes.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

There’s a solution to everything. I meant a solution that is at all likely to happen.

To be clear: Israel is committing genocide with their superior fire power. This is wrong. I hope a solution that can create a lasting peace is found…

… but I would not bet money on that happening.

theotherverion , (edited )

That’s literally the worst possible solution.

EDIT: Or better said: Just as bad as the whole land given to Israel and nothing to Palestine.

Keeponstalin ,

Or a One-state solution

theotherverion ,

I don’t think that could end well considering how much they hate each other. Hence why I see 2 state solution like a more viable alternative.

antidote101 ,

I thought I saw something from Biden about laws aimed at Jewish settlers stealing homes the other day…

…I guess Israel acts pretty fast when the 3.8 billion dollar stipend a year from the US is brought into question.

givesomefucks ,
  1. Biden is sanctioning individual “settlers”. 4 of them specifically, a sanction against someone like that does nothing. They dont have millions in the international banking system. It why we don’t sanction Russian soldiers, we sanction Russian oligarchs. And why what Biden did was completely performative
  2. Biden is never going to stop giving Israel billions a year.
  3. I don’t think any year has been 3.8 billion, and I have zero idea where you got that number.

Just in case you were wondering why people are downvoting you

shalafi , (edited )
  1. 8 wasn’t it? In any case, it may look performative from our living rooms, but diplomatically speaking, this is a strong rebuke. I know, sounds silly, but an American President signing an Executive Order spanking Israelis, in any way for any reason, is quite a thing. It’s a warning shot across the bow. Our government knows it, Israel knows it.

Kinda like when a diplomatic delegation says, “We strongly condemn…” That ain’t your neighbor mad about your fence line, that’s saying, “FAFO, war coming right up.” Words and actions have very, very, particular meanings in international affairs. People get master’s degrees and doctorates studying and practicing this. These are not playground fights.

  1. Maybe? We can hope? How much of this spending is under direct control of the President? After all, Congress has the power of the purse. If Biden could control defense spending on a whim, why is he begging for aid to Ukraine? If he can do as he pleases…?
  2. “and in 2019, the amount was raised again, now standing at a minimum of US $3.8 billion that the US is committed to providing Israel each year”

en.wikipedia.org/…/Israel–United_States_relations

www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/israel/

EDIT: As to #2, I should add: I’m aware America has a history of giving our President’s more and more, and more, military power. The President can roll aircraft carriers and troops, but direct spending? Someone help me out?

antidote101 ,

Australia sanctions individual Russian hackers.

www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-23/…/103377976

America, since 2016 has been giving Israel 3.8 billion a year to maintain their apartied border. Which they couldn’t afford without the US of A.

aljazeera.com/…/us-and-israel-sign-record-38bn-mi…

shalafi ,

Never seem to be able to link people to posts, see mine below. I think you’re on the money here.

old.lemmy.world/comment/7227787

Scubus ,

They’ve already put this much effort into their stated goal of eradicating the entire populace of Gaza, so I would be very surprised if Israel backs down now. Until the world steps in and forcibly stops them, I don’t see Israel doing so much as scaling back their destruction.

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