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Caligvla ,

… Based?

PugJesus ,
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Not really. The current US soldiers are there with the permission of the Iraqi government, which is far from a US lapdog. The group in question is a pro-Iranian paramilitary group seeking sectarian domination over Iraq, and sees non-Iranian foreign influence as an obstacle to that.

Altofaltception ,

Reminder that the US invaded Iraq 20 years ago on false pretenses. That whole region is unstable because of US meddling.

pan_troglodytes ,

not that it was particularly stable at any time prior

Altofaltception ,

Ever? Or in recent times?

There were hundreds of years of peace before the US was even conceived.

PugJesus ,
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There were hundreds of years of peace before the US was even conceived.

uh

Altofaltception ,

The crusades ended in the 13th century.

PugJesus ,
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You... you do realize that the crusades weren't the only military conflict in the Levant, right?

... right...?

Altofaltception ,

You do realize that things were quiet for centuries after the crusades right?

PugJesus ,
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... they most certainly were not.

Altofaltception ,

Citation needed.

PugJesus ,
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There was a bit of a minor scrap with some basically unknown fellows called the Mongols, and then there were the quarrels between the Mamluk Sultanate and the Turks, the constant rebellions and civil wars, then the Ottomans and the pseudo-feudal wars, separatist movements, and peasant revolts of that period, which include both prior-to and after the US's founding.

Altofaltception ,

See timelines I mentioned.

PugJesus ,
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... what timelines?

'Centuries after the crusades' - there is not a single century without major upheaval in the region from the factors I mentioned after the crusades. Not. One.

Altofaltception ,

The Mongols were during the crusades.

PugJesus ,
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The conflicts of the Ilkhanate extended well into the 14th century, after the last attempts to hold onto the crusader states petered out. Try again.

Altofaltception ,

Particularly in the Levant?

PugJesus ,
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Yes, in the Levant.

Altofaltception ,

Citation needed.

PugJesus ,
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Altofaltception ,

So 10 years after the last crusade.

Last I checked, 1700-1300 is 400 years, which could be considered centuries. But maybe the definition of a century has changed.

PugJesus ,
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The war continued for some 20 years after that. After that, we get into internal Mamluk wars and unrest. Is that where you want to go? Because while I can do this all night, I won't do it with someone arguing in bad faith because they don't want to admit they were wrong.

Fades ,

Fuck off historical revisionist

Altofaltception ,

Fuck off historical denier.

jimbolauski ,

The Ottoman Empire was slowly conquering Iraq in the 1500, and uprises were happening from the 1600 on.

brain_in_a_box ,

It was a hell of a lot more stable.

galloog1 ,

Oppressive was the word you were looking for.

brain_in_a_box ,

No, stable.

PugJesus ,
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"God, I love it when Kurds are genocided, that's what true stability looks like." - Least repulsive tankie

brain_in_a_box ,

Everyday the definition of the word tankie becomes more nebulous; now it includes people who think the invasion of Iraq was a bad thing.

PugJesus ,
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Tankies have shit views all over, including that Saddam's Iraq was 'stable' rather than 'oppressive'. Nothing about the illegal invasion of Iraq. But you have fun jerking off to gassed Kurds.

brain_in_a_box ,

Stable and oppressive are not mutually exclusive. But you have fun jerking off to a million dead Iraqis.

PugJesus ,
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Stable and oppressive are not mutually exclusive.

First, you said it was not oppressive, but stable, but nice try.

Second, they very much are. Oppression does not create a stable society, it merely bottles up tensions. But I wouldn't expect a tankie fuck who gets hard over the deaths of minorities to understand that.

But you have fun jerking off to a million dead Iraqis.

Wanna remind me how many Iraqis Saddam's regime killed?

God, imagine being so intellectually and morally bankrupt that you simp for Saddam's Iraq. That's some peak brainrot. I would say tankies never cease to amaze, but honestly, I'm not even a little surprised.

Apollo ,

Dictatorships usually are.

Fades ,

whole region is unstable because of US meddling

No, no it’s not, you’re being incredibly reductive. Time to read some history pal

Altofaltception ,

Fair. British and French meddling*

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