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some_guy ,

Ask her to lead by example.

floofloof ,

She claims to have done so:

"I went to the business listings and I just started calling up companies and asking them if they had internships available and that I would be willing to work for free.”

It worked. Mathur’s first foot in the door of employment was at the travel firm Travelocity during her first summer at the University of Texas. She did admin and research for its general council—all for free.

I wonder how the money worked at that stage in her life. Was she living off loans? Was she living off wealth from another source?

maniii ,

Highly likely that there was some connections to grease a bit of the wheels of commerce.

All these “i worked as an intern” usually have some connections that “picked” them from that intern pool. The other interns usually tend to be the fall guys. “So sorry all of you missed out but this person is the bestest!”. While being the son/daughter/friend/family of someone in that company.

idiomaddict ,

I used to work at an insurance company, and I ran the internship program for my department once. When we were doing the interviews, one of the candidates was from my geographic area, which is pretty rural and not many of my coworkers were from anywhere near there. He’d launched a free tutoring program at his high school and carried it on a few hours a week through his first couple years of university until that point. For paid work experience, he had mostly agricultural work, because he had to support his family.

I’m realizing now that I may have been a little naïve about it, but no one else even wanted to consider him compared to the students who were able to do many more extracurricular activities and were able to dedicate more hours to non paid work.

What I’m trying to say is that even if nobody is actively corrupt, it’s a structurally classist system.

maegul ,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

What I’m trying to say is that even if nobody is actively corrupt, it’s a structurally classist system.

Yep … this.

Whether there are lies or nepotism or completely inapplicable experiences or just confirmation biases … the very idea of the internship to get your foot in the door is classist.

The idea that you have time to burn for free for the sake of your career is classist. The idea that an economic system premised on everyone being employed somehow should work by having those employees constantly “hustle” to get employment is classist. To speak of these notions as universally applicable without acknowledging their classism … is classist.

makeshiftreaper ,

I just started calling companies and asking

Immediately I don’t trust whatever advice she’s dispensing. You can’t just “call places” or “walk in with a resume” anymore. The phone numbers are all automated systems that will never put you in front of people who can hire you. You need a badge to get in anywhere that’ll give you an internship which you can’t get if you don’t work there, and if you did somehow talk to someone they’d just shrug and say “I don’t know how that works, just go to our website and apply there”

Even ignoring the “let them eat cake attitude” it’s obvious she doesn’t even realize how hiring works at her own company. I guarantee you that her advice would not work at Squarespace

stoy ,

Yep, it was her generation that quickly pulled up the ladder behind them.

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is she saying stupid shit like the to get attention?

DrFuggles ,

maybe, but the article really doesn’t justify the headline imo. The article reads more like her statements are coming from a “this worked for me, so try my way if you’re struggling” place rather than a “work for me for free, bitches” place.

not saying that in itself is good, but, you know, also way less infuriating than condemning those entitled youngsters

Steve ,

Sure. If you want to climb the corporate ladder, chasing money and power, that’s the way it works.
If you want to paint houses for a living, or take X-rays, or something simple that just allows you to comfortably pay your bills, this is fucking stupid.

sunzu ,

If you want to climb the corporate ladder, chasing money and power, that's the way it works.

Nobody gets ahead by providing free labour, that shit is a myth so slaves work "hard" and nepo babies get promoted...

shalafi ,

OP’s talking about the necessary grind, not working for free. Though that can be part of success.

20-years ago I was grinding on my computers non-stop. That got me a tech support job. Few jobs later, I’m grinding on my home lab to learn more for what I wanted to do at work. That packed my resume and I doubled my pay and benefits on the next job.

sunzu ,

OP's talking about the necessary grind, not working for free.

what are you basing this on? OP prompt is "free work:" Steve said "sure"

but ok (gen-x) boomer

way to bring your personal non sequitur anecdote int this tho, you really hit peak boomer here

ramchak ,

Sure. If you want to climb the corporate ladder, chasing money and power AND daddy is paying your expenses that’s the way it works.

Fixed that for you. Internships only benefit the wealthy.

Steve ,

Internships only benefit are only available to the wealthy.

sunzu ,

Bruhh... if my internships = career movers, then yes

But there is so much parasitic "business owners" out there... looks like they are activating again. They got lucky in early 2010s when millennials were desperate for jobs because there were not enough boomers retiring. These parasite are looking for a similar set up, demographics are different.

Let's see how it plays out.

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

You wouldn’t get the picture from any finance or economic article because they never quote labor leaders, always executives, and can’t tell the truth about a union to save their life, but labor organizing is on the rise after big victories last year that continue to impact negotiations and forming new labor unions. Never work for free, always value your time and labor at least as much as the wealth class values their capital.

sunzu ,

Never work for free, always value your time and labor at least as much as the wealth class values their capital.

Remember kids, these people would not piss on you if you were on fire.

and there is one thing nobody ever said on their death bed: "I wish I made a parasite more money"

BlameTheAntifa ,

Experience is priceless, but this is just justifying exploitation.

sunzu ,

They are still saying that shit to middle aged millennials 🐸

Sensitivezombie ,

Spoken like a true capitalist. Work for free, kiss the boots of corporate execs, and maybe we’ll throw you a none.

milLeNnIaLsAnDgEnZdOnTwAnTtOwOrK

henfredemars ,

Working for free only communicates that you don’t value your labor, expertise, nor your time.

Never work for free. You disrespect yourself and your profession.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Also communicates her family is well off enough she didn’t need to get paid.

Which really shows how bullshit anything she says really is. It’s likely her family connections got her where she is rather than her own hard work.

psmgx ,

Wtf is a CMO?

Sunforged ,

Chief Masturbatory Officer

Ragnarok314159 ,

That is a solid plan to advance your career.

EnderWiggin ,

“geriatric millennials” How old does this author think millennials are?

SolarMonkey ,

Pregnancies over age 35 are considered geriatric as well. So maybe they are just confused because of that…? (I’m being generous)

RudeOnTuesdays ,

It’s a term used to refer to older millennials. I am 42 and apparently a “geriatric millennial.” I hate the term, for what it’s worth.

metaphortune ,

Gen Z job seekers should be allowed to steal everything this person owns.

sunzu ,

I aint gonna say I condone crime but I also did not see anything either

Clumsy rich and their property 🐸

NegativeInf ,

It’s a crime that these people are rich in the first place.

Never forget, wage theft is the most common form of theft in the USA!

Eat the rich. Farm their unplanted lands!

sunzu ,

sure as fuck don't condone parasites either lol

Nuke_the_whales ,

When the revolution comes, people should remember her and where her mansion is

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good luck finding her in the first place. Why do you think they push the Internet so hard?

SkyNTP ,

Take your crab mentality and fuck right off, Kinjil.

chronicledmonocle ,

As a Millennial: Hahahahahahaha fuck you no.

fizzyvelcro ,

I hate the softball fluff-pieces.

Even a halfway decent journalist would have asked how she could have afforded to do all those internships for free or how she thinks young people might afford-to now…

cabron_offsets ,

Fuck off and die.

e_t_ ,

Rule of Acquisition : Your boss is only worth what he pays you

psmgx ,

There has got to be other measures, such as how much her skin would fetch as a couch, or taking her trappin

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