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DaleGribble88 ,
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Surprising to see so many on lemmy not watch the video, or recognize that it is by Second Thought.

I watched this video earlier today and it didn’t contain any particularly new or insightful information for me, but that’s almost entirely because I’ve been somewhat politically active for a while, which I don’t think is strictly his target demographic at this point.

Second thought’s videos were very uncomfortable but informative when I was first learning about socialism.

Again, just surprising to me that they aren’t more popular in this online space.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Because it is propaganda shit

Promoting socialism is fine. “Promoting” socialism by kneecapping Democrats, airing “pro socialism” content which will have as its sole and only impact in the actual real world, to give aid and comfort to people who are actually trying to destroy socialism (like, very literally, in the sense of shooting socialists with real bullets), and cloaking in it this veneer of “oh yeah it makes perfect sense because the opponents of the socialism-shooters aren’t doing ENOUGH and so it makes total sense to focus energy on damaging them, instead of on, idk, promoting socialism and socialist outcomes,” is less fine.

Hope this helps explain the difference

kmartburrito ,

Thanks for showing your true thoughts, so I can tag you in Lemmy as a trump supporter and more easily see right through you in the future. I would suggest others do the same to easily identify these sycophants.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Have fun in your echo chamber

kmartburrito ,

Have fun losing in November

Hedlosa ,

Mate we’re socialists, we’re not fucking trump supporters lol

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

$150 billion in student loan forgiveness

40% reduction in carbon emissions by 2030

Income inequality going down for the first time in God knows how long, with working class wages rising faster than even pretty historic inflation

If you are invested in things like, I need you to not raise corporate taxes, or I need you not to send weapons to Ukraine, then I am sure the Democrats have been very disappointing yes. But there are a lot of people for whom that is not the viewpoint.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You’re supposed to watch a video before commenting on it

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I have watched a couple of Second Thought videos before. I don’t think I need to augment the experience any further.

(Actually I did just click on it, play a few seconds, and then click away, to damage their ranking slightly in the algorithm.)

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

So brave. Almost had your world views challenged there because the points you brought up here get debunked in the video.

Good thing you came in here to comment on this post instead.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Tell you what, set me up so I can talk to the authors; they can raise their “debunkings” and I can respond in detail, and they’re okay publishing that alongside their misinformation. If having your world views challenged can be a two way street, then I’m so down.

If it is just me being required to give views to what I am highly confident is a bunch of bullshit trying to ruin the democracy in a country I care about, then no, I think I will not.

You’re not from the US, correct? I didn’t see you answer the guy who asked who it was that taught you to write decimal points to separate thousands groupings when writing a dollar amount.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

What a long comment without any content on the video. Amazing.

Ended it by pulling random ad-hominems out of thin air too very impressive. You’re from Russia right?

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Totally normal.

If I went into a Brazilian political forum and was super enthusiastic about telling the Brazilians who they should be voting for, and then after I made it sort of a part time job for a while, someone realized that I don't speak Portuguese and asked hey what's up with that, where are you from, and I said not, oh my wife is from Brazil so I'm into it, or yeah I moved here I'm living in Rio for the year for work but I haven't learned, or none of your business why but yes it's of interest to me, but HOW DARE YOU AD HOMINEM ME and receive it as an attack... yeah that would be super normal. Totally ordinary stuff.

SquirtleHermit , (edited )

$150 billion out of $1.7 trillion…

A 40% reduction in emissions that we are no where near on track to meet.

Income inequality down for the first time since '07, largely due to the middle class wealth stagnating. The ultra wealthy increased their wealth the fastest of all groups.

I’m more invested in not sending weapons to Israel tbh. And this isn’t even picking apart the mass amount of issues both political parties align on or simply ignore.

I’m voting for Kamala. I’m super stoked that Biden dropped out. I believe Trump would be worse on all of these fronts, and I think Kamala has a better chance to win.

But a lot of people are still rightly disappointed in the Democrats, and to write us all off as Corporate shills and Tankies is alienating a group that you probably agree with on many levels.

kokesh ,
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What has Trump ever done? Except raping journalists, getting pissed on in Moscow and stealing secret documents and trying to sell them?

mozz , (edited )
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Don’t forget getting CIA assets killed by the dozens and regularly shitting on himself

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget him coming up with a brilliant solution to pandemy by injecting chlorine bleach.

Vaggumon ,
@Vaggumon@lemm.ee avatar

Remind me again what the republicans have accomplished in the last 4 years?

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

They got Biden to build their border wall and send money to israel.

almar_quigley ,

And what exactly has that wall done if the rate of illegal border crossings is so high? Or is that dems fault as well? Talk about echo chamber…why don’t you get out of yours.

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You almost realized the Dems shouldn’t be building the wall. Almost. Grind those gears a bit more before commenting.

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