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Hey, we should all really stop using racist slang to refer to customozation

Meta post I’ve decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn’t use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn’t know the origin of the term ‘ricing’ until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it’s from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

NorthCountryHermit ,

No.

RTRedreovic ,

Thanks for the heads up. I tried looking up the origins of the term once long back when I first heard it but could never find it after a search. This again makes me iterate how Racist and White-centric the Internet is in general, which is observable to me as a person from Assam.

Another term people should avoid is the «soyboy» meme term. It is also a racially prejudiced word against Asians.

  • en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/soy_boy, Soy consumption is high in many Asian countries. (There is no scientific evidence for any correlation between soy consumtion and feminization for anyone curious to know.)
Scoopta ,
@Scoopta@programming.dev avatar

Discussions like this always bring me back to one thing…can a word itself be racist? Is it racist to use a word if it’s not being said with racist intent? It’s reminiscent of the gimp debacle…if a words use isn’t intended to offend it’s honestly beyond me how anyone could find it offensive. Are we supposed to ban every single word that has the slightest history of being used in an offensive fashion? Feel like we’d have a really long list if we did that.

original_ish_name ,
  1. I’m pretty sure it is actually from a certain food (can’t remember which one) that only tastes good when lathered in rice
  2. By this logic, saying words like “shit” are swear words is colonialist
WoofWoof91 ,
@WoofWoof91@hexbear.net avatar

hey, you’re cute :3

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

This is the same shit as with r/animemes and the word trap back on reddit.

andrew1412 , (edited )
@andrew1412@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/71d3106d-9dd9-417c-93fe-a60f0f02e257.png

This is not a word made to be racist, but stolen to be one in the eyes of a few.

The mare fact that you stop using the term rice, because “it’s racist” implies that you’re being one, by saying the racists are right about using the term in a racial and derogatory way. Instead of using the word normally, as has always been here.

If tomorrow greetings becomes racist, because it’s discovered that in their origins were racists the ones who greeted themselves, will you stop greeting people?

Im pretty tired of seeing this stupid propaganda spread everywere and everyone celebrating it.

You will never be morally superior. You really are not helping any one, you have no altruist intentions, you have no repercussion on reality. You are an attention seeker twisted by social media and social engineering into a mockery of a sane person’s mind.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

I had no idea… I would have assumed it was related to rice somehow, like the people who paint on rice grains.

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charje ,

Before cars, people would rice their rice carts.

combat_brandonism ,

lmao like moths to a flame

@dessalines there’s a lot of cryptofash in here begging the question that need to be banned, not merely have their comments removed

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Small question for you, is Dessalines still expected to moderate this community? I assumed they would have bigger fish to fry

combat_brandonism ,

Further down the thread they were calling for mods. I’m calling for admin action.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I see, Dessalines is both, that’s why I was confused

randint ,

You are also begging to be banned. Your comment calling someone a “comprador” is to be removed too.

combat_brandonism , (edited )

someone

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Integrate777 , (edited )

For the sake of the American asian diaspora minorities again?

This reminds me of attacking those girls for wearing a kimono or cheongsam to a prom. The Japanese and Chinese living in Japan and China certainly don’t have an issue. It’s the Japanese/Chinese American minority community who has built their identity around it, and feels threatened by the use of their traditional clothing. Fine, the prom is in America, it’s an American problem in an American space, the local diaspora have a say there.

Unixporn on lemmy.ml isn’t American(or any one country) though, clearly there are a variety of people from every corner of the globe here. This place is positively cosmopolitan. I don’t see a reason why the “rice” term still has to be protected despite being a global platform. Just like it’s fine for any tourist to rent a kimono in Japan, it should be fine to use rice as a term here. Unless this platform were to officially become Amerian(or any other country like Fedd.it etc), this problem shouldn’t exist. I’m an rice eating asian myself, I’ll be glad if people were to associate rice with customization.

The Asian American community should keep in mind that the internet isn’t always an American space by default. I don’t think they should be gatekeeping everything Asian on a global platform.

combat_brandonism ,

this is anglophone forum and the origins of the word are rooted in racism

but by all means keep outing yourself

Integrate777 ,

As what, an Asian who can read and write English? Just India alone has a significant chunk of the human population, speaking English outside of the typical English speaking countries. It’s not that odd anymore.

combat_brandonism ,

countdown <- this many more posts until you say the gamer word

Integrate777 , (edited )

Pretty sure you aren’t discussing in good faith, but let me add that local Asians like me, aren’t the least bit offended by being called “rice eaters”. I do in fact eat rice almost everyday because I enjoy it. A majority of my countrymen enjoy rice too. It’s also cheap and infinitely customisable, exactly as implied by ricing. I will genuinely be pleased if people in other countries enjoyed our rice dishes.

Again, if you aren’t going to engage me in good faith, just kindly ignore. I will still stand by my point that this is a global platform, and everyone else shouldn’t have to tiptoe around the “rice” term just because Americans can’t treat Asian Americans decently. You guys generated all this baggage on the name of our staple food, maybe you guys should fix it back home first.

XPost3000 ,

Yeah, I had absolutely no idea what “ricing” was even supposed to mean, like it doesn’t look like it’s short for anything, doesn’t seem like an acronym for anything, it’s not analogous or synonymous with anything, I can’t see how “rice” is supposed to be metaphorical at all to cool looking linux desktops, and it’s not an entirely new word like “rizz” or “yeet”

So by all accounts it’s an absolutely unfitting word for what it’s describing

Knowing the racist history of the term now, yeah that makes sense and yeah I vote we move to an objectively better term

Idk what tho, maybe “decore” cuz it actually describes that the focus is the look, that the DE is the Core of the setup, and sounds cooler than “rice”

“Decore” and “Decorizing” is probably the terms I’m personally gonna use atleast

Edit: unless I find a better term, I came up with this one on the stop

thepiguy ,

The term rice comes from Japanese culture of modding cars aesthetically. Basically getting a basic normal car and making it look cool.

And if we go even further back, not many people know this but rice is actually food.

thepiguy ,

Maybe a pretty popular food should not be used as a racist slang. You barking up the wrong tree bud

combat_brandonism ,

smuglord

SchrodingersPat ,

Leaning into the “porn” part of unixporn, we could say we"fluffed" our setup. Because like fluffers, we’re making things bigger an more attractive to show off.

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah just one big circlejerk

valentino ,

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    AOCapitulator ,
    @AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

    Oooh, well said! Enlightening!

    so coolvery-intelligent

    randint , (edited )

    Not saying that this is a bad thing, but it’s kind of amazing how opinions of the public can shift so drastically within a month: lemmy.ml/post/2080934. Last month another user posted in the very same !unixporn asking whether people consider the term “rice” racist. The majority opinion back then was “if you get offended over a term like this you should take a break from the Internet.”

    AOCapitulator ,
    @AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

    It’s because the ratio of liberals to communists/ actual leftists who give a shit about not being racist has changed quite a bit since then

    PuppyOSAndCoffee , (edited )
    @PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml avatar

    It is interesting that many of those people are conservative bigoted fascists, not because of the words used but how.

    It is the language of hate that drives the mindset of gestapo and goosestep:

    • your new opinion does not matter if it doesn’t match my old one (conservative)
    • if you are different you are the presumed enemy (bigotry)
    • an overwhelming desire to integrate personal ideology with state control (mussolini era fascism)
    ruckblack ,

    That’s still the prevailing opinion in this thread lol.

    HornyOnMain ,
    @HornyOnMain@hexbear.net avatar

    Lol, it’s a pretty good example of how hexbear federating with the rest of lemmy has functioned to push back on a lot of the casual bigotry that got imported from Reddit

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    This term has been around a lot longer than reddit

    combat_brandonism ,

    applied to Unix desktop customization it was popularized on reddit

    but yeah that’s the whole point, before that it was an obviously racist term

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    I thought i remembered a long time ago (early 2000s) that it was actually about using rice based ethanol in your sportscar to boost performance somehow.

    www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna18615542

    ftloscience.com/producing-biofuel-from-rice-husk/

    combat_brandonism ,

    at that same time & earlier it was predominantly used to refer to either car enthusiasts themselves or their asian-manufactured, cheap and easy to customize cars. as has been endlessly pointed out in this thread.

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