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Nougat ,

Can you short an IPO?

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

You can buy puts on the IPO price.

chiisana ,
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

Only if their DMM enables options. There are many stocks without options. In that case, the only alternative would be to borrow shares from your broker and sell those shares instead. You’d then have an actual short position that could be recalled by the lender.

Either ways, I’d probably not touch it. I wouldn’t want the theta burn or the risk of getting recalled while price actions tries to figure out a direction.

bradorsomething ,

Options don’t kick in for a week.

TacoButtPlug ,
@TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works avatar

I like where your head is on this.

wintermute_oregon ,

The markets are insane. There is no way Reddit is worth 5 billion.

ares35 ,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

watch the reddit ipo be a catalyst for a stock market crash.

RandomStickman ,
@RandomStickman@kbin.social avatar

Imagine reddit causing The Great Depression 2.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

“They really spezzed up the economy.”

wintermute_oregon ,

To me it’s a sign of how out of whack the stock market is right now. Lemmy created the Reddit experience at a fraction of the cost. Yet Reddit spends millions a year doing it.

infinitepcg ,

The difficult thing is gaining users, not writing the code.

wintermute_oregon ,

Considering a large majority are bots, I don’t think that is their issue. Until their numbers are public, we won’t be able to see the acquisition cost.

infinitepcg ,

I don’t think the number of bots matters much, there are much more real people on Twitter than on Mastodon. It’s not an issue for Twitter because they already are the platform where everyone else is. I’m optimistic about Mastodon, it already has the better UX and the better business model and I think it will slowly attract more users over time and eventually reach the relevance that Twitter had at its peak.

wintermute_oregon ,

and twitter wasn’t worth 44 billion dollars. They also were not profitable.

Reddit is not worth 5 billion dollars. A few years ago they claimed 10 billion.

People need to stop assigning such high valuations as this is what creates billionaires when the value isn’t there.

infinitepcg ,

It’s hard to tell how much a platform is worth, arguably the value of Twitter was 44B, since someone was willing to pay that.

The good news is, if you’re really certain that Reddit is overvalued, you’ll soon be able to short it and get rich if you end up being right!

wintermute_oregon ,

I don’t short stocks. I invest in companies I believe in and that provide value. That’s why I won’t invest in Reddit. I don’t believe in the company or the people running it. I have a few odd ball stocks like Google that I don’t believe in but overall they treat their employees well and they have a plan for success. I’m a big fan of their 5% policy. I just overall don’t like their model.

infinitepcg ,

I think it’s reasonable to not short stocks. I just find it a bit weird to see people confidently proclaim that a company is overvalued, but than not shorting the stock, which would be the rational thing to do.

wintermute_oregon ,

It’s gambling and not investing. If I thought it was valued properly, I’d invest in the company. I don’t as such I won’t invest in the company.

I don’t gamble with my money. I invest in companies long term

Kayel ,

How much was WeWork valued at without turning a profit?

wintermute_oregon ,

Some huge validation. It’s not profitability. It’s does it make sense. Many companies forgo profit for growth. That’s common. Wework never made sense at its valuation to me.

Same with Resdit. What is reddits path to profitability ? What value does it create? With their admins and mods being dipshits. It’s a liability to a company and not an asset. I would never buy from a company advertising on Reddit.

erwan ,

It’s not that much for a tech company with such a big user base

wintermute_oregon ,

It has no profit, no path to profit and most the users are bots. If advertisers paid attention, they’d realize it’s with next to nothing

capital ,

For ads? How else do they make money?

golden_zealot ,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Selling user data, selling top posts and comments to corporate marketing accounts, selling control of dialogue about any subject to sway public opinion, reddit gold, making the platform more ass.

capital ,

Good points.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

How about $5?

pineapplelover ,

Silver award. Take it or leave it

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

You’re going to need more than that to cover the legal liability of the lawsuits brought against the company. You could easily end up in the negative, with a mess like that!

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

$5 + tree fiddy?

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Remember the defamation lawsuit where spez lied about what the third-party app dev said, so the dev released the recording of the call proving it?

Also, the other time that happened as well? If you bought the company for a few million, $5 might be all you end up left with! (I hope!:-) 😂

In short: fuck spez.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Fuck spez

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Too rich for my blood.

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

for that bot-infested shitposting dump?

DogPeePoo ,

Fuck Spez right in the p***y!

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Pardon me, but I believe you mean that bot AND AD invested shitposting dump.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Hey, it’s not just bots! It also serves as a home for trolls and whiny children too.:-)

I hope you know what I mean when I say that Reddit is dead, but Long Live Reddit! :-P

Exec ,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

Good luck!

heygooberman ,
@heygooberman@lemmy.today avatar

Um…really? I don’t think so

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Meanwhile tech is hemorrhaging.

Good luck Reddit! 😂

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Good fucking luck with that

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