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‘If you want to have a good party, ask your friends not to take photos’: Carissa Véliz, expert in ethics applied to technology, advocates for a system of digital anonymity

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Carissa Véliz is an expert in ethics applied to technology. The Spanish-Mexican philosopher, who does not provide a date or place of birth to protect her privacy, is one of the voices that warn us about the growing digital dangers that lurk at every corner and chip away at our individual autonomy.

Carissa Véliz: Autonomy is a fundamental principle. To have it, you need space to make your own decisions, to think about what your values are and act in that direction. And when they are watching you all the time, the other’s gaze is oppressive, it seeks your compliance. The simple fact of being observed reduces our impulse to experiment, to ask. Human beings need privacy, intimacy and a certain solitude to discover ourselves […]

We don’t realize how surveillance influences us. If we turned off the cameras we would see that we do not think the same, we do not express things the same way, there is not the same type of frankness in the debate […]

Anonymity is one of the most important social innovations of democracy, in particular, the possibility of making an anonymous protest, going out into the streets… Today we carry our cell phones with us, which identifies us, and that sometimes means that people do not show up when they need to […]

China takes the lead [in the rejection of any privacy], it has no pretensions to being democratic or liberal. It is going all out with surveillance, it intends for it to be centralized. The surveillance you are subjected to at work has consequences on your personal relationships in a country like this. It affects, for example, the visibility you achieve on dating applications […]

Obviously, we [in the West] need regulation. Collective problems need collective solutions. It is not up to the individual to change things and yet we have power; When we change our behavior, companies and governments are sensitive to it. It’s not about not using your cell phone. We must try to protect our privacy when we can and it is not too demanding. Instead of using WhatsApp, use Signal. It’s free, it works just as well, it doesn’t collect your data. Instead of using Gmail, use Proton Mail […]

Any decision that can significantly affect a person’s life [should never be left in the hands of AI]. AI is not a moral agent, it cannot be responsible for harming someone or denying them an important opportunity. Nor should we delegate to AI jobs in which we value the empathy of a fellow citizen who can understand what we feel.

mikesixgolf ,

@0x815 this opinion is a similar remark to 'please can stop pretending there is an alternative to ms windows'. tunnel vision is tunnel vision, cannot see beyond GAFAM. the world still goes around with zero google. so there are alternatives to facebook whatsapp. sure smaller footprint, still an alternative that is a live and well and still kicking. different use cases, different demographics. 'please can we stop pretending there are alternatives to BYD evs?' network effect right? that's my opinion to the remark.

bazmatazable ,

Thank you for the post, I do like reading what experts have to say about our digital privacy. I don’t like that many of these articles/discussions focus on specific choices that a user can make to gain more privacy. Please can we stop pretending that there is any alternative to WhatsApp. The network effect is why we use their platform not for any other reason. Its like advising someone to speak Fuzhou instead of Mandarin when in China, its not that its wrong to do so just that it is poor advice, or at the very least assumes that your priority is to speak Fuzhou over actually communicating with other people. The author says as much themselves: “Collective problems need collective solutions.” This is great! But shortly after we read: “Instead of using WhatsApp, use Signal.” groan + face-palm. I want to be positive and reiterate that I am happy that this is being debated at all.

lvxferre ,

That’s some damn great text. It avoids all that discussion about free will, as it focuses on autonomy instead; and it shuts off the “BuT I HaVe NoTHiNg tO HiDe” discourse right off the bat, by mentioning that being watched does change your behaviour

(BTW, dunno if you guys noticed, but this “nothing to hide” discourse has often the implicit accusation: “since you seek anonymity, you’re assumed to be a shitty person”.)

A. A Zero-Knowledge Proof system is being trialled at the BBC. Imagine that a minor wants to watch a program for people over 18 years of age. Through this system, which provides a verified identity, the chain will know if the person is of legal age or not.

Frankly, I feel like the main benefit of such a system won’t be child protection, but shutting up abusive entities that babble shit like “think on the children!”.

A. Any decision that can significantly affect a person’s life. AI is not a moral agent, it cannot be responsible for harming someone or denying them an important opportunity. Nor should we delegate to AI jobs in which we value the empathy of a fellow citizen who can understand what we feel.

Emphasis mine. slow clap

PotentiallyApricots ,

Exactly this. I hope that privacy is talked about in these terms more often going forward. It’s about so much more than what’s illegal or might put a person in danger. We cannot be authentic and connect to one another if we are constantly wary of some imaginary audience!!! Surveillance and what buzzfeed called “panopticontent” have absolutely wrecked and flattened self expression and in so many contexts where people used to be so vibrant. People who say “I have nothing to hide” miss the point entirely.

derbis ,

I am… very interested in the particulars of this zero knowledge system.

lvxferre ,

I am, too. Sadly, I didn’t find any info on the specifics.

Perhaps it’s something extremely simple; like a device that generates a string that proves that you’re 18+, but the string being generated doesn’t lead to you, it’s just some random number. But that’s just my conjecture.

(If anyone is interested on the concept in general grounds, Wikipedia has a nice article on that.)

derbis ,

A lot of people don’t seem to “get” digital privacy and this is really well articulated. Will be sharing when it comes up

pimeys ,

This is what I really like about clubs in Berlin. When you get in, they put stickers to your phone’s cameras. If you take them out and try to take photos, or they see you removed the stickers when you get out, you need to delete all the photos you took in the club and you’re never again welcome to their premises. Makes also dancing there super fun because people really dance, not focus on taking a video of the DJ.

maggio ,

Yeah, clubbing 101 in Berlin. So refreshing

riquisimo ,

That’s really cool, I would totally be down for reading an article or watching a video essay that goes into the differences between clubs with and without phones.

I did a little research and apparently there are sexy clubs where you can hang out in rooms and do consensually sexy things and everyone is cool with it. I don’t go clubbing, but I would assume it’s a little different here in the states.

pimeys ,

It is very different outside Berlin too. But one of the reasons is how most of the clubs here are very queer friendly, and it is easier for people from different backgrounds to go there if they know their presence there is not leaked to their families from some photos.

I also noticed that underground parties in countries like Finland started to follow this trend. In these cases it is more to filter out cameras on dance floors which obviously makes the parties more fun when people are just not using their phones all the time.

beejjorgensen ,
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When I was in college we had disposable film cameras. That was more than enough intrusion, thank you very much. I’ve always been incredibly happy that we did not have digital cameras in those years. 😅

RobotToaster ,

Privacy is part of the reason I got back into film photography, my photos can’t be spied on if they never touch a computer.

driving_crooner ,
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