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PutangInaMo ,

What in cigarettes was causing heart attacks? Nicotine?

Teotwawki ,

Yeah, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. Smaller blood vessels = higher blood pressure and higher risk of heart attacks and stroke.

PutangInaMo ,

I’ve been using the nicotine pouches and there’s only addiction warning labels on them. But the whole time I’m thinking, I’m pretty certain nicotine isn’t good for the heart…

m3t00 ,
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recall drama when they banned smoking in elevators. should be banned in public spaces. smoked when younger. now it just stinks. even outdoors. read big tobacco is diversifying into foods that are addictive.

sagrotan ,
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They have to keep alternatives reasonable available, like vaping. But no, they make it so expensive that many people went back to smoking tobacco instead of going the other way and downdose on nicotine & understand that they simply don’t need either.

Sentrovasi ,

Vaping is banned in Singapore. You still see some people illegally possessing and vaping though.

JoeKrogan ,
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I’d like to see this in more places.

M500 ,

UK is talking about raising the smoke age each year. I think that’s pretty cool.

sagrotan ,
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Absolutely! I see every day the awfully sick people in our hospital, one side lung left but still smoking 2 packs a day, practically living outside. In certain circumstances it should considered as involuntarily suicide. Plus: they annoy other people as fuck. Disgusting habit.

SupraMario ,

Do you see the same thing with morbidly obese people as well? Considering smokers are no longer in the top deaths now?

Woht24 ,

Fucking rude honestly. I’ve smoked on and off for a lot of my life, having quit again now for 4 years. I’ve seen both sides but I really abhor the old ‘it’s a disgusting habit’. I can understand how it is, the smell, the yellowing of your teeth and fingers etc but just what’s the point? Putting addicts down on your high horse?

You should just be pleased you didn’t make a poor choice growing up and live your life. Let them kill themselves if they choose to never kick the habit. I firmly believe it’s a human right, you can’t force people into a style of accepted living. People really just want the world to be exactly how they perceive it should be and have zero tolerance for anything they don’t like.

It’s just more people discriminating against others for bullshit reasons.

vivadanang ,

I’m an off-and-on again quitter. Smoking is the worst habit; it’s not discriminating on people to:

not want the world littered with cig butts.

not wanting to smell disgusting cig smoke as people walk by or worse, loiter, blowing their garbage into houses and apartments.

not wanting to pay for the enormous burden this habit puts on the healthcare system for nothing but perpetually addicted suckers who got hooked before they got sense.

it’s a burden on society writ large, from the asshole flicking out a cig that starts a wildfire (the world is already burning) to the dickheads who vape on the train. I wish it would all go away.

Woht24 ,

Smoking is the worst habit, I’ve said it many times myself but it’s not disgusting. It’s the worst in terms of cost, what you get in return and the fact it’s a drug thats only real high is making you want more.

People smoking doesn’t equal litter, to blame them all is… Disgusting.

Fair but I smell plenty of gross people every day who aren’t smokers.

Don’t know where you live but in Australia, we pay almost $60 a pack and that $40+ of tax is for my healthcare.

Yeah yeah, I wish you would go away or at least become a bit more tolerant.

vivadanang ,

People smoking doesn’t equal litter

it does - it’s air pollution of the worst kind. their fucking buts end up in the marine life. want more tolerance? get fucked or stop smoking you douchecanoe.

Woht24 ,

You’re a fucking retard and obviously didn’t read any of my comments. I quit and I never fucking littered. The worst kind of air pollution is from factories, power plants and refineries - cigarettes are completely negligible.

Go get some education.

vivadanang ,

sure bud, whatever you tell yourself.

Woht24 ,

Nonsensical.

SupraMario ,

You know they also banned gum right?

Sir_Kevin ,
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This is the way.

SupraMario ,

Yes because prohibition works…

xep ,

Not really a direct parallel considering you can't exactly grow your own tobacco. Tobacco also isn't sold for any other purpose, unlike barley.

SupraMario ,

Lol what? You %100 can grow your own tobacco. And there is a ton of research being done using nicotine for Alzheimer’s and dementia.

Sir_Kevin ,
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You seem to be using the US as an example. Countless other countries have banned various drugs quite successfully. Singapore being just one of them.

Woht24 ,

Oh yes, let’s all adopt the magical laws of Singapore and start beating people with sticks and HANG THEM for drugs.

Fucking ludicrous, how the fuck could you speak like Singapore’s draconian laws are a good thing and they’ve ‘successfully’ banned drugs. By human subjugation.

Sir_Kevin ,
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Ok, in my defense, I was not aware of the drug laws in Singapore. That was a really really really bad example. Like holy shit they have the death penalty for 500 grams of weed WTF. And you’re presumed guilty just for being around a location where drugs have been used. Yeah I agree that’s madness.

Woht24 ,

Nice, love the realisation. Good man

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