Ditch Telegram for Piracy.

zabadoh , 4 hours ago

What kind of system that depends on centralized servers can ever be secure from government snooping?

That kind of architecture is completely hopeless in that regard.

Is a encrypted, distributed, P2P architecture realistic though?

lord_ryvan , 2 hours ago

XMPP with the OMEMO extension is close, no? While Matrix isn’t distributed, it is decentralised like Lemmy and Mastodon, and E2EE by default. That could be the closest thing to what you mean?

Chewy7324 , 1 hour ago

I’d argue XMPP is less ideal than Matrix because groups are located on a single server, which makes them easier to take down than Matrix’ replicated state.

Running any P2P/decentralized protocol over I2P seems to be the best for privacy and censorship-resistance. I2P already works great for torrents, except for it’s speed and lack of users/seeders.

@zabadho

The problem always comes down to usability and barrier to entry. Telegram is popular because it’s great to use, and doesn’t moderate much. More private services rarely (never?) reach the level of usability most people expect, often simply because of it’s architecture.

theshatterstone54 , 5 hours ago

After their CEO being detained and arrested in France because of the illegal activity on his platform, it was a matter of time.

TwilightKiddy , 2 hours ago

The guy has a history of making something that looks good and then selling it to governments. I’m surprised people took the bait for the second time.

princessnorah , 1 hour ago

Could I ask what the first time was?

winterayars , 1 hour ago

They could turn on end to end encryption and the fact that they aren’t doing that is telling imo.

YourPrivatHater , 2 hours ago

I think a invite only matrix server would do the trick, and better than signal, they don’t want large groups.

user , 2 hours ago

But if you just interact with the channel and just download isn’t it ok? I mean I ain’t hosting it. Or you reckon even users might get in trouble depending on your country?