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camethroughtor ,

The more people who use I2P for relatively normal reasons like piracy, the safer it is for people who want to avoid censorship.

Its reputation of Dread bezo addicts is probably why nobody uses it unfortunately

lukas ,
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Because people believe a VPN or a seedbox is gonna save them from legal repercussions. They paid for it with their real information and credit card too, for convenience. They compromised their private tracker identity and must abandon the trackers the moment the legal landscape incentives companies to pursue individual copyright infringements. But most probably won’t, and face the consequences if that ever happens.

toxictenement ,
@toxictenement@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

From what I have read on the upcoming implementation on i2p in qbit, I do not forsee it being adopted by the core torrent user base. The main issue I have with it is that while you can download from clearnet peers, you are only able to seed to other i2p peers. This completely eliminates any adoption by anyone using private trackers. Its not like the guys in brazil are going to jump through an extra hoop to hide their ip since they never needed to in the first place, so they can be ruled out for adoption as well. What I really fear is that its going to create a completely unnecessary schism in the userbase with a sort of ‘leechnet’ walled garden of i2p users which would hurt the greater availability of seeders. I also haven’t gotten a straight answer from anyone how ports are going to work in i2p, since normally its imperative to have a forwarded port in order to be a full participant. Unless i2p users can seed to clearnet users without issue, I am going to be worried about the impact on torrent health as a whole.

timkenhan ,

Why is it in Java??

obosob ,
@obosob@feddit.uk avatar

There is a more performant C++ implementation but it’s been a long while since I’ve used either it or the java implementation. Worth checking out.

maynarkh ,

3 billion devices run Java.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I would like I2P to be implemented as a default by pirates, but it looks like people (including myself) are lazy

Sanrasxz ,
@Sanrasxz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah, I just can’t be bothered to switch when torrenting works fine as is.

einat2346 ,

And in almost all cases is faster.

qazwsxedcrfv000 ,
@qazwsxedcrfv000@lemmy.unknownsys.com avatar

The main reason is that https://www.libtorrent.org/, which is the literal backbone of most torrenting clients, has implemented supported for I2P only recently in its latest v2.x branch… It takes time for libtorrent to iron out bugs and stablize and it takes more for clients to upgrade their embedded libtorrent to v2.x.

Madiator2011 ,

Probably mostly cause:

  • Slow speed unless you you keep your router 24/7
  • People are used to download torrents fast
  • Clearnet has much bigger torrent database
idkman OP ,
  • if you configure your node correctly, you won’t see much difference in bandwidth.
  • i2psnark can be fast.
  • but clearnet comes with an issue of tracking.
whynotzoidberg ,

I think your response answers the question.

If configured correctly. Can be fast. IMO, once those statements are less conditional and prone to error, we might see the pro of privacy carry more weight.

Anamana ,

People don’t understand sometimes how much of a tech-ethusiast bubble we got going on here

Madiator2011 ,

How so. Only idea what I can get is reduce number of hops.

god ,
@god@sh.itjust.works avatar

Of course. Your idea is THE idea. You CANNOT get mass adoption without a minimal amount of hops. You won’t get the hordes of pirates running around reading wikis on how to configure their router for piracy and how to get an i2p provider and how to get an index etc.

Torrenting right now is so broadly adopted because you just download a Torrenting client, click the magnet, click OK and you’re good to go.

If you HAD to set up port forwarding, some magnet handling register in windows preferences, just those two would stop the bulk majority of pirates. And that’s not even 1/4 of what you have to do to use i2p correctly.

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