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harrybo93 ,
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Sorry- “progress”???

nimomycelium OP ,
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I was being ironic.

harrybo93 ,
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Totally missed that tone. My bad, sorry.

le sigh though

nimomycelium OP ,
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Text isn’t always the best medium to convey irony/sarcasm.

NaoPb ,

I know. They should add more lanes.

/s

Audacious ,

From the picture, I count 16 lanes. Is the pic accurate?

PlantDadManGuy ,

Anything but a fucking train…

MeanEYE ,
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Coincidentally they form train-like structure, without all the benefits.

MojoMcJojo ,

And quintuple the emissions

MeanEYE ,
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Yup. Trains are stupidly efficient.

Noodle07 ,

Soooo like for profit health insurance? Murica

FIST_FILLET ,

shit could have been 1 long passenger and 1/10th of a freight train

ocassionallyaduck ,

And was we can all observe, it has solved traffic for Houston due to accommodating all the cars possible by upgrading with enough lanes perpetually.

It is expected to be complete once the lanes exceed N+1 or the population drops below N.

Zahille7 ,

Texas highways are fucking terrible.

And I’m gonna have to deal with them in a couple weeks.

Colonel_Panic_ ,

I hate cars and highways so much.

I wish we had good mass transit like Europe.

duderium2 ,

China’s mass transit is better. Probably we should just hire the Chinese to construct a national bullet train network in ten years like they did in China. But wait, we can’t do that because that threatens the profits of the bourgeoisie, who are the true rulers of amerikkka. Oh well, enjoy your eight hour commute to make your bosses richer!

Olhonestjim ,

Tofu dregs. You should look that up.

xthexder ,
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China also kinda just forces anyone out who’s in the way. To build any new infrastructure the US ends up getting slowed down to a crawl because of red tape and beurocracy. Land owners have a lot more rights in the US.

duderium2 ,

Unless the landowners are Black or Indigenous. I don’t recall euro-kkkolonizers asking their opinion about colonization either in the seventeenth century or today.

xthexder ,
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I’m not talking about history. I’m talking about the US today.

duderium2 ,

How can you separate one from the other? History doesn’t just begin and end at the convenience of white supremacists. When did the colonization end, for instance? All the euro-kkkolonizers are still here, they just changed their flag and started sending their taxes to DC instead of London.

xthexder ,
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These “euro-kkkolonizers” were all several generations ago. Maybe you want to pretend nothing has changed, but things have gotten significantly better since then.

I won’t pretend we don’t still have problems. People of color are still statistically lower income, and they’re still affected by all the same capitalist problems that come with that.

The problem is also not the same across the country. Every state has their own top issues.

duderium2 ,

Why were slaveowners compensated after the civil war but not slaves? If colonization ended in the USA, was all the stolen land given back to Native Americans? If not, I guess nazism is still very much a thing in this shithole!

Colonel_Panic_ ,

I’m not taking sides really, but I just want to point out that the US very much DOES still do shit to bipoc communities regarding infrastructure and construction and housing.

They will run a new highway right through a neighborhood. And sure, they offer to buy up the land first usually, so that’s nice I guess, but they don’t pay well for it and if you don’t move they just take it anyway. Rail lines run through lower income areas. Highways too. There are “easements” and “imminent domain” legal fuckery that they use against bipoc people mostly too. If it’s a rich neighborhood they go around, if it’s poor people tough luck to them.

Residential can also get rezoned to commercial and force everyone out.

There are LOTS of legal and quasi legal things that are done all the time here. But even the legal ones are often ethically/morally wrong.

So there’s that.

duderium2 ,

Which corporate CIA source should I use to excuse the nazis who run the USA?

MeanEYE ,
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Japan pretty much has it figured out. Bunch of trains, slow or fast, fancy or frugal. Whatever fits you there’s an option. You can get a Pikachu train with a shop and children’s playground if you want to.

Pyr_Pressure ,

Everyone always disparages the cost of public transport but how much does it cost to maintain these highways every year? A few dozen/hundred billion dollars across the country?

foggianism ,

Also how much supposed leasure time is wasted sitting in all those cars, making the people frustrated, sick and unfulfilled?

MeanEYE ,
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In USA they fund maintenance by developing the sprawl. So they are stuck in this circle where if they don’t develop, they can’t maintain, but developing means more surface to maintain, etc.

jenny_ball ,
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they’re not really maintained much anymore other than minor stuff. even that costs tons of money and is of minimal benefit for job security of departments doing it. you’ll all be dead before any major development or changes occur. and even if they decided to do something major, the construction of it while you wait for it to be done over the years will make transportation even more unbearable for those years.

Professorozone ,

Am I the only one not seeing 26 landed here?

Stovetop ,

Unless they count the shoulders as their own lanes, I don’t see 26 either.

booly ,

I think this is a picture before the most recent expansion. (They saw this picture and said “hmm not wide enough, too congested.”)

In the normal parts:

  • 2 express/toll/HOV/carpool lanes
  • 5 regular highway lanes
  • 3 feeder lanes (in Texas, the highways tend to have “feeders” or “service roads” or “frontage roads” that run parallel to highways so that people can exit and enter, turn onto intersecting roads, and access local businesses, and Houston calls them “feeders”).

That’s 10 in each direction. But at any given time there might be merge lanes between the express and the regular lanes, between the highway and the feeder, or between the feeder and a turn lane. So at the widest point, around the major freeway intersection with another huge toll highway, they bump it up to one more of each type of lane, for 13 lanes in each direction.

There’s also a fair debate about whether the feeder lanes should count. After all, they have traffic lights and intersections to deal with. But on the other hand, driving on them is necessary to get on and off the highway lanes, so in a sense it’s part of the same highway.

neclimdul ,

Yeah that’s a better description.

Also of note this is part of the evacuation system for hurricanes. All lanes are outbown in an evacuation.

But it also kinda hides some of the crappyness. it was supposed to be on top of a giant underground flood diversion system which is a huge problem for Houston as you may have heard. Also the center was supposed to be for a commuter rail but we couldn’t get the bond passed so that might happen someday…

GBU_28 ,

Hear me out: stack it vertically. It’ll be great, I promise

BigDanishGuy ,

Yeah, we attempted a surprise vertical stacking on the highway one time. 0/10 would not try again

Got to practice my first aid skills, though, and I even picked up a few stories for my first aid classes.

MossyFeathers ,

Fwiw, feeder lanes probably shouldn’t be counted in Texas because they’re basically glorified city streets. Businesses can have entrances and exits on frontage roads, so there’s not really anything special about them except that they have a slightly higher speed limit (5060mph vs 4045mph) and they have immediate access to the highway.

An interesting article to go along with this.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

The feeder there is also almost certainly 45. So not really any faster than normal stroads.

bitchkat ,

I was going to ask if they count the frontage roads as part of the highway in TX. Because that’s not right.

Ziggurat ,

All of that, for a traffic jam. Imagine turning 4 lanes in a train track carrying 500 person every 5 min in both directions and one lane in a bike lane. It’s still 20 lanes for car, but you suddenly have decent public transport which would be safer and faster than that gigantic traffic jam

cogman ,

Or just a decent bus system. You could replace 50 cars on that highway with a single bus.

chiliedogg ,

It’s always first and last leg in Texas that kills this stuff.

The only affordable housing is far enough outside the city that you basically have to own a car because there’s not enough density to have bus stops.

And going to a park park and ride following by waiting on the bus adds another 30-40 minutes to the commute and gets your car broken into 3 times a year, so nobody uses them.

The real solution is to mandate allowing remote work for positions where it is a viable option.

I commute 4 hours a day for a job where I log into a computer and do all my work online. If people like me were allowed to work remote we’d have more time with our families, traffic would be reduced, and housing closer the city would get cheaper for those who DO need to work in-person.

jjjalljs ,

Yeah, well, many people are deeply stupid. And selfish. And racist. But I repeat myself.

Personally I think anyone who goes like “I don’t want to ride a train I might have to sit next to a black person” should be dealt with more assertively, but I’m not in charge.

MeanEYE ,
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One train! A single train track solves all of this. No need for two. Just one. In the picture you don’t see more than 500 or so people and that fits in no more than 5 modern train cars, with toilets, refreshments and other amenities. And it moves faster.

toofpic ,

Yea, progress, progress

gndagreborn ,
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I just came back from tokyo after doing the JR pass travel to view the entire country. I fucking HATE CAR TRAVEL. taking the Narita express to the airport was so painless. Got back to IAH bush Int’ctl and it was a complete clusterfuck trying to get an Uber. Not to mention it was quite literally twice the price the express line train was. And that was one of the more expensive limited expresses too.

Halcyon ,
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Public transport in Japan really is such a delightful experience. Also the organization and the habit of the people using it. It just works. And is cheap.

Stovetop ,

Just be aware that the JR pass is meant to be a form of soft power expression, with the goal being to make it easy for tourists to get places to spend money and then make them want to share stories about how great the rail system is in Japan when they leave.

They don’t allow such good deals for their own residents, only tourists, since JR pass requires you to be a non-resident. For everyone else, it is far more expensive to travel moderate distances by rail than it even is to fly in most circumstances in Japan.

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