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RootBeerGuy ,
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At her teeth cleaning, they did an X-ray. She paid for none of it. “They really go above and beyond,” she says.

No, they really don’t. This should be normal. Then again, dental care is privatised in a lot of countries who otherwise have “free” healthcare, so in a way a lot of people are in the same boat as Americans. Ever since I moved to a country where I have to pay for every dental treatment I find myself distrusting the dentists opinion if that procedure really is necessary or not. They profit directly from it, why not add some stuff that’s not needed? Considering how important your teeth are for your quality of life, I hate to be in that situation.

AI_toothbrush ,

As an example: i moved from hungary(eu but everything is pretty shit) to sweden and in the first month basically they did a checkup and xray and turns out i have micro cavities between my teeth. In it self micro cavities arent s problem but they can easily become a really big problem if they get large. Now i floss to prevent that from happening.

RootBeerGuy ,
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It is a bit weird to pick Sweden for that example because you do have to pay for dental care yourself too. There are some subsidies of course, but it isn’t abnormal to pay the equivalent of 100 EUR for a visit, even if its just to clean teeth from toothstone.

I got scammed a few times when the hygienist or dentist just told me they really need to show me how to properly brush and then I get charged another 50 EUR just for that. Without them telling me beforehand that this will cost extra.

Unless you are under 18 (or under 25?), then it is free at least. But really it should be free for all under general healthcare.

Source: me, I live here and its the example I used in my comment above.

AI_toothbrush ,

Oh yeah im under 25. But its still better than in hungary where you basically pay for everything. Source: i lived in both places. Also my mom also gets it free, thats probably some work related thing then ig

NABDad ,

I live in The U.S., so of course I’m not actually familiar with a functional health care system. However almost 50 years ago when I was in elementary school, there were health lessons that taught us kids how to brush and floss.

Regular flossing doesn’t seem to be the kind of thing you should need an X-ray to learn about.

AI_toothbrush ,

Well we dont have those in hungary and its hard to get people to just brush their teeth so…

watson387 ,
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Now just imagine ALL of your healthcare being that way and you can pretend you’re from the US.

TheBat ,
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Cocks imaginary shotgun

bobs_monkey ,

You rack a shotgun, but carry on lol

KeefChief13 ,

Knew a dentist by me who got locked up for 5 years for intentionally breaking teeth and pushing for experience crown operations. Netted over a mill with just that, was in the top 98% of dentists for crown work despite being a small shop.

Serinus ,

was in the top 98% of dentists

So 2% of dentists were worse? Doesn’t seem like much of an accomplishment.

Phoenix3875 ,

Be the top player of the world and you too can enjoy a trial period of free health care.

jjagaimo ,

Imagine the kinds of things that even top athletes wouldn’t care to bring to the attention of doctors or dont get treated because of the cost hurdle. Imagine extending that to the entirety of the American population. Most of medical costs in america are because of the privatization of health care, administration overhead and artificially inflated costs.

Its insane to me that people who are incompetent, especially at their own jobs, can get paid orders of magnitude higher than skilled workers. I did jury duty recently and in the case, the VP of a nursing facility was getting paid in excess of 200k and had the gall to claim they did everything by the book in a negligence case (they did not) and constantly failed to answer the attorney’s questions properly (she’d always answer a different question than what was asked, refuse to answer yes/no, contradict clear facts about what was on the page in front of her). Not sure who she thought she was fooling. Attorney literally had to ask her if they were looking at the same paper because she was in a different world. Its people like that that keep our healthcare system so expensive that people cant afford to survive.

I have no doubt that people will fight tooth and nail to keep their trashy privatized health care - let them. Its just stupid to me that they refuse to allow lower cost health care of the same quality by the government. My brother in christ you could use it too if you stopped fighting for it to not get passed

return2ozma OP ,
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So many are fooled into needing to be “better than” others. They look down on fast food workers, “illegals”, homeless people, etc. They should be looking up to the corporate overlords and billionaires who are creating the problems.

PriorityMotif ,
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I have a theory that many Americans believe that if you are poor/suffering, then you are obviously being punished by God/karma and therefore deserve to suffer. I believe it’s a rationalization for their own selfishness.

SoJB ,

Americans are (generally) just shitty human beings. This has been true since the first landing of the pilgrims. Yknow, the gang who were famously religious extremists considered too extreme for 1600s Europe.

This is the natural outcome of an individualist society. Similar to how capitalism will always result in total economic collapse, individualism is a poison to society.

Even going back thousands of years, people generally helped each other out. You can go to a random village in the Russian countryside where people live in desperate poverty and they’ll share some food and water with a smile on their face. This is generally true anywhere in the global South.

People depend on communities and societies. America has systematically destroyed all semblance of the human experience, and it shows.

Kecessa ,

Its people like that that keep our healthcare system so expensive that people cant afford to survive.

Nope, it’s the insurance and pharma industries.

xc2215x ,

Smart move by them.

Rolando ,

A 2022 study by The Commonwealth Fund found that the U.S. is the only high-income country without universal healthcare. Many American athletes do have access to the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee’s health insurance policy. But their eligibility for the program is up to their sport’s governing body, and an independent commission appointed by Congress found that “some of the most talented competitors under our flag go to sleep at night under the roof of a car or without sufficient food or adequate health insurance.” More than a quarter of U.S. athletes report earning less than $15,000 per year, and more than 40% said they paid out of pocket for healthcare, with an average cost of $9,200 per person. Only 16% said they’d been reimbursed.

Because the U.S. is one of three countries whose elite athletes receive no government funding, athletes know that they need to find opportunities to build their brands to try to earn enough money to continue competing. Ramsey, for example, came to the Olympics planning to focus on both rugby and making videos, because, she says, “The only other job for women in sports, really, is social media.”

from the article: si.com/…/american-athletes-taking-full-advantage-…

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