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Raisin8659 , (edited )
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Look at the post’s date, when the active rebellion happened, and the fact that there is nothing going on now. This was likely a hoax.

limonfiesta ,

As native Moscovite, I can confirm that I’ve already scalped 3 Wagnerites and one very confused German composer.

amaze ,
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Well its a random tweet from a random twitter user so no this is not credible. The hell lol

NAFO ,

That’s how you know it belongs here on this subreddit

RIPandTERROR ,
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looks around

Subreddit? 🧐

ciko22i3 ,
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How strong is Wagner compared to Russian military? Are we talking ~1/10 of the strength, 1/100, 1/1000?

skillissuer ,

wagner had 50k in dec 2022 and it was probably peak, before february 2022 ru army had 300k active duty, so i’d say it’s somewhere between 1/10 and 1/100. closer to 1/100

Redex68 ,

The main problem is that if they really started fighting, Wagner is wholly reliant on the Russian army to support them with ammunition. Wagner has no logistics and would quickly crumble from it.

skillissuer ,

oh yeah this counts manpower only, and maybe small arms and some light equipment are in similar proportions. wagner has, for its size, little heavy equipment, virtually no engineering equipment, and shoiguu where is my ammunition

ciko22i3 ,
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Wow thats a lot more than I expected. I thought they are just a loud bunch of mercenaries. They can actually do some decent damage if they decide to turn on putin.

skillissuer ,

that was their peak, remember just bakhmut ground down low tens of thousands of them (20k? 25k?)

abrasiveteapot ,

Not terribly credible. The reddit thread I first saw it on had a translated MoD announcement that only said Wagner were treasonous (but not shoot on sight) and some people arguing that the Russian version looked fake.

Definitely grain of salt for now.

JohnDClay ,

No wonder Russia has been human waving Wagner, trying to thin the ranks (No clue if this is credible, but if it isn’t, it just fits here better)

skillissuer ,

like a true nazi state, russia wants to get rid of undesirables: criminals and the extremely gullibile (through wagner), minorities, the clueless an debtors (mobiks). you’ll find out that mobilization orders weren’t taken very seriously in moscow, but were in bashkiria and tuva (at least at the beginning). far east has few jobs available, in one far eastern region like half of population is in inescapable debt. army gives stable if shitty job. you can dodge draft if you know who to pay but if you don’t have money, this doesn’t work

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