Ah, yes NATO must protect the Balkans

SomeAmateur , 5 months ago

The poor Belkans can’t catch a break

Tar_alcaran , 5 months ago

How the fuck is Russia going to supply 50k troops by air? And how are they going to continue that while people are actively shooting at them? And how is a force of 50k troops, equipped with what I can only assume is the dregs of the dregs of the cold-war reserves, supposed to beat the entire polish/Lithuanian military, even without a thousand european jets dropping bombs on every dogtrail between the border and Moscow.

The main problem of the war would be how to divide up the land between Lithuania and Poland, and me learning the word for “Koningsberg” in two more languages.

Justas OP , 5 months ago

Yeah it would cause another ”Wilno nasze" thing local Polish keep saying when they try to annoy you.

EmoDuck , 5 months ago

They’re gonna use dragons. Noticed how Russia hasn’t lost a single dragon since the start of the war? This will become important later

shalafi , 5 months ago

Every professional military war games like this. Non story.

Tar_alcaran , 5 months ago (edited 5 months ago)

How to run NATO wargames:

step 1: Vague excuse for an intervention

step 2: Horribly cripple your own side for the purposes of actual training

step 3: Make opfor exceptionally competent and prepared

step 4: Results are non-amazing, maybe even a very educational loss

step 5: Read about the mighty russian army beating NATO in NATO wargames

step 6: Read about how russia runs a wargame on easymode with cheats and barely wins, reinforce your beliefs.

Sunfoil , 5 months ago

Yep. A true open war between NATO and Russia, with nukes banned, would be an unbelievably one sided advance into Moscow.

HuddaBudda , 5 months ago

I'd call it a wishful thinking, but I think that if things do go their way, they will absolutely try it.

1. Russia calls up 200,000 more troops

On top of the 200,000 he just did in Nov? Or the 500,000 he did in April? Or was it the 450,000? I don't think it is going to make a difference unless Russia deploys something new.

2. It launches a spring offensive against Ukraine.

Note: Also have to win the spring offensive, which Russia is still not able to break through. That might change if Ukraine doesn't get it's funding.

3. Cyberattacks against Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and stiring up Russian nationals who live in those nations

Note: This was the Ukrainian attack plan too.

4. Using those Russia nationals as a pretense for saying the (Baltic?) are rightfully theirs a military exercise called Zapad 2024 is launched with 50,000 Soldiers moving into Belarus.

When they say Russian nationals, they mean, using the local population in further meat wave tactics. Whether they want to or not. Either way, if Russia has gotten to this point, then 50,000 is still a very low number. It is going to take a lot more.

5. Taking advantage of the transition period after the US election Russia claims "Border conflicts" forces it to take control of the (Suwalki Gap?)

Basically he expects there to be discord during the elections no matter who wins or loses. Hypothetical at best.

7. War with nato. In 2025

And all of this is supposed to happen in less then a year. Outside of China and India joining the conflict, or Russia Pulling out a new super weapon, it's a plan, but it takes into account so many layers and "what ifs" that by the end you are left with a sliver of predictability at best.

I'd bet on winning the lottery over Russia's wishful thinking.

Justas OP , 5 months ago

Yes, but to be perfectly honest, February 24 attack on Ukraine seemed quite noncredible to western military intelligence too.

PugJesus , 5 months ago

*Baltics

Justas OP , 5 months ago

That is my point with this post exactly.

PugJesus , 5 months ago

Oh, lmao, I didn't catch that they mislabeled it in the pic.

NOT_RICK , 5 months ago

Who made this infographic?

Justas OP , 5 months ago

Leaked documents from the Germany Ministry of Defense according to NY Post / Bild

NOT_RICK , 5 months ago

I’d imagine the Bundeswehr isn’t writing their plans in English so I’m going to assume it was the NY Post continuing to be the joke of a news org that they are.

Justas OP , 5 months ago

Yes, Bundeswehr would know their backyard.

zaphod , 5 months ago

No no, that’s why they still have soldiers in Kosovo, every few months they send them there instead of Lithuania.

Kolrami , 5 months ago

The only somewhat credible English language source I could find for this is NYPost.

nypost.com/…/germany-preparing-for-russia-to-star…

I’m really wondering how this passed the sniff test for some people at the NYPost.

webghost0101 , 5 months ago

I don’t think this “leak” required a sniff tests. Smells like misinformation propaganda. Propaganda in favor of the side i support but misinformation nonetheless.

This thread alone proves that It is serving its purpose.

PugJesus , 5 months ago

The NY Post isn't the NY Times. The NY Post is a rag.

zaphod , 5 months ago

*Balkins

Jaysyn , 5 months ago

A literal pipe dream.

Glad NATO is taking this seriously though. Makes Trump being rejected at the ballot box even more important.

Justas OP , 5 months ago

I don’t think that them mistaking Baltics for Balkans twice and that getting through review counts as them taking it seriously.

NOT_RICK , 5 months ago

This looks like the NY Post fucking up. I’m surprised they didn’t write it in crayon, it’s their favorite snack over there

neokabuto , 5 months ago

mistaking Baltics for Balkans twice

No, they mistook it for Balkans once. The other time they mistook it for “Balkins”.

massive_bereavement , 5 months ago

Bilbo Balkins?

someguy3 , 5 months ago

Number 7 happens as soon as number 5 happens.

I also guarantee you after Russia’s poor showing in Ukraine that NATO’s planning on holding the gap.

Jaysyn , 5 months ago

Number 7 happens as soon as number 5 happens.

Yes, thinking there would be a 6 month delay in response to NATO territory being invaded is absolutely delusional. There would be a Polish flag flying in Moscow in 3 weeks.