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Hamas and Gaza Health Ministry are two very different entities.

The numbers of dead reported, which is what this whole article and thread is about, is reported by the Gaza Health Ministry. Casting doubt on the credibility of Hamas’ death counts is casting doubt on the credibility of the GHM, because that’s where their numbers come from.

The analogy between the slavery era US government and Likud breaks down for a few different reasons.

The analogy was of 2 subjugated peoples who resisted their subjugators with violence, and are then condemned for it.

Isn’t that literally exactly what I said in my original message?

No, you said that Likud supports Hamas because (in your claim) Hamas is opposed to peace. In reality, Israel doesn’t care about the goals of the Gaza government, they care about whether international organizations will work with them. Hamas is not opposed to peace, they are opposed to setting up an open-air prison with slow starvation, no self-determination, apartheid status for its people, and frequent bombings… and calling it peace. They also know that Israel will never actually create a true state for the Palestinians willingly. If that’s ever going to happen, it’s going to have to be forced by one group or another (or more likely, sadly, it just won’t ever happen).

If you ambush a music festival and kill hundreds of unarmed people, you’re a monster, and you’re going to hell.

People do terrible things when pushed to the brink. Doesn’t excuse it, but it is the only outcome of pushing people there. Israel should have some introspection as to why they seem to create so many monsters.

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