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jtk ,
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Is your address tied directly to the virtual card? If it is, terrible idea on the CC company’s part. If it’s not, how did they know it? I’d assume they have a lot more than just the virtual card info.

Coldgoron OP ,

To my knowledge its not, it was an apple card too which would be a mountain size leak for a large group. Im thinking it was most likely an online vendor for the moment.

jtk , (edited )
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Is the virtual card number single use? I’ve never used one before. If not, maybe another site it was used on just leaked it along with the shipping address. Edit: Oh, that’s basically what you assumed. I tend to reply before I read more than one sentence :)

Patches ,

Credit Card Numbers by themselves are technically worthless because you have no guarantee they aren’t just randomly generated.

Verified Credit Cards are worth significantly more on the black market. There is no reason to set off fraud detection by using a fake address. Those resellers do not want the goods - they want good credit card numbers.

Significantly less risk in reselling numbers compared to goods and no logistics, or fencing, to speak of.

Coldgoron OP ,

There is a lot sides to this scam business.

Hope ,

I believe sometimes bad actors will purchase goods from themselves using illegally obtained payment information and then actually send the goods to the victim to try to argue against the chargeback and/or make the victim think “hmm maybe I did order this…”. Or they could be trying to make their devices less likely to trip fraud detection systems for a larger haul. Not sure how well this all works though. With more expensive things (phones, TVs, etc.) I’d think they’re planning on swiping the package before you get it, but with coffee I’d be shocked if that was the plan.

Coldgoron OP ,

Wild scam idea, must work x amount times. Too bad for them we drink zero coffee.

deegeese ,

Donate to local homeless shelter or food bank.

Coldgoron OP ,

I would but these have become gifts this year because I couldn’t afford them otherwise

Patches ,

Planning on swiping the package requires you to be local to the victim, and willing to assume a high level of risk and time - this is not often close to the truth. These people are often not even within the United State.

What you are describing exists but it would be far more likely that you would know them - and it’s a sloppy drunk family member/friend/coworker. They would not be in the game for long doing this.

Coldgoron OP ,

We are leaning toward an online vendor at the moment. The card has no numbers and we have zero locale with knowledge of sniffing card numbers.

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