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ironcrotch , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Let’s put limits on how many things you can view at the same time as putting a sign up gate to see anything. How do you think your platform got any users to begin with? It’s almost like he has no idea how anything he’s making decisions on actually works but that would be an unfair assumption? /s

Aervalynn , in The price of a cinema ticket in this day and age. No wonder people aren't going to the cinema anymore.

Not only that, but then the prices of all the food inside is unreal. I just wait until discounted ticket days at my local theater if I really wanna go see somethin

Elliott , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Anyone know the timeline for BLUESKY? ♥️

ChootchMcGooch , in The price of a cinema ticket in this day and age. No wonder people aren't going to the cinema anymore.

Imagine wanting some popcorn and candy to top it off… streaming from home is the way to go now and they did it to themselves.

It’s a shame too, because there are some movies that just benefit from that large form factor viewing. I’d love to go see Oppenheimer on imax but I’ll be damned if I have to spend 50 bucks to go watch it alone with some refreshments and snacks.

cswine , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

There will always be people using that dumpster fire

Coreidan , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Things like Reddit and Twitter are bad for billionaires. It makes it harder for them to exploit you when there is a public place to talk about their bullshit.

TempleSquare ,

That was my reaction when Elon first bought twitter. It’s like he’s so stupid he thinks Twitter is the only possible platform that could ever be a twitter.

It turns out, we’re all pretty clever at figuring out places to talk. The talking is going to happen. Where we do the talking keeps changing.

Max_UL ,

Hence why we gotta fend off corporations like Meta from the fediverse as much as possible, they’ll corrupt and control it.

Cornpop ,

Are they encroaching yet?

whatsarefoogee ,

He never actually wanted to buy Twitter. He was just running his mouth to manipulate the market.

Twitter called his bluff and took him to court. He tried to weasel out of it with various excuses (like there are too many bots) but it didn’t work. When he came close to having the court accessing his personal communications, he folded and bought Twitter.

He massively overpaid for it compared to the already inflated market price, instantly losing many billions. Must have had some insanely illegal dirt in those communications for it to be worth it.

So no, it wasn’t some machiavellian plan to disrupt public communications. Musk is just not a very smart greedy asshole.

josephramoney ,
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@Coreidan @STRIKINGdebate2

THIS! the Saudis liked it even less

FrankFrankson , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Needs more JPEG

nightscout , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.
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This only makes sense when you understand that he’s intentionally trying to destroy Twitter.

josie ,

I suspect that he’s just bad at making business decisions in general, but it was harder to see that with SpaceX and Tesla.

He seems to take this whole Twitter thing personally as well, so I’m sure that’s not helping. (i.e. he’s not outsourcing decision-making to competent people)

jb007gd ,
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But why? He spent so much money on it, why would he want to destroy it?

nightscout ,
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IIRC, causing its value to plummet is the easiest way for him to get out of this whole fiasco via bankruptcy (remember, he was basically forced into buying it). He played a stupid game and won a stupid prize and now he’s desperately trying to find a way out.

jb007gd ,
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I still need a little guidance here so I can understand. Let’s say Twitter did go bankrupt, then what would happen? Would Elon be off the hook for the billions of dollars he owes to his financers?

nightscout ,
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I don’t recall the specifics of the one article I read about this, but yes, I think being able to declare bankruptcy gives an out for at least some of the debt. I believe there was also some way that doing so protected Tesla but can’t recall exactly how that worked.

This just doesn’t seem like a “he’s just bad at running a company” situation. A company of Twitter’s age and maturity could have run itself for quite some time if Elon just let it continue on. He’s doing this intentionally for some self-serving reason.

another_lemming ,

Or maybe he was financed to run it down?

AwakenedFinn ,

But what’s the end game? I seem to recall he fought pretty hard to prevent the purchase from going through and only when faced with a lengthy court battle that he would likely lose did he accept. And he is in for a fair amount of loss on that deal anyway.

Isn’t it a simpler answer that he is just incompetent and somewhat like sand, the more he tries to squeeze the users for money the more it slips through his fingers? The strategies he’s trying might work in other business types like the car industry but not one where it is wholly dependent on user content and engagement (and the ability to engender enough good will to sell ads)…

nightscout ,
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That’s exactly why. He didn’t want to go through with JT and I think devaluing the company might be a way for him to get out of it via bankruptcy. I remember reading that somewhere and thought it made the most sense. He’s a dude with a lot of money (at least on paper) and I’m sure he has people with a decent amount of financial acumen advising him what to do or at least trying to steer him in the right direction. I don’t think it’s any 6D chess or anything, just finance and tech bros playing finance and tech bro games.

samb85297 , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Well good thing there are alternatives out there that are growing like Bluesky and Mastadon

phillycodehound , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.
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Bye bye Twitter.

onlysleepswithafanon ,

Hey, why is your name so red? New here. Shout out cheese steaks and i95 construction workers.

niktemadur ,
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Saying this at this point is like being at a concert in the 80s and 90s and yelling "Free Bird!"

forksandspoons , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

How fast can one really read 6000 post ? Assuming you read 100 post a minute, is that 1 hour of usage before getting cut off for the day? I dont really have a feeling how many posts a normal twitter user would go through in a minute.

donut4ever , in The price of a cinema ticket in this day and age. No wonder people aren't going to the cinema anymore.
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Serious question, wtf is a convenience fee? There needs to be a law for companies to explain wtf these things are.

idealotus ,

For the convenience of getting screwed over…

LetMeEatCake ,

Convenience fee is the best name they can apply to soften a fee, which is really just a way for them to charge more than the list price.

Fees should be universally folded into the list price by default.

donut4ever ,
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It’s fucking disgusting. TMobile does this shit, too with their “other fees”. My gym does this with a $27 a year “maintenance fee”. Like wtf is this?

SixTrickyBiscuits ,

You might be seeing fees I’m not, but some cell service are actually mandatory in the US. Usually a few dollars a month, they go to various state and federal agencies.

donut4ever ,
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I don’t know. I don’t mind the fee if it’s small, but at least give a name that shows it’s justified. “other fees” doesn’t mean shit

Xterrestrea1 ,

Essentially automated greed. They make more money by automating their employees and they charge you even more because of how convenient it was for them to do so.

Casmael , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Looks like he’s changed his mind pffft what a derk

ransom , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Twitter doesn't want to pay the Google Cloud bill lol

Kissaki ,

Before Elon Musk's takeover of the social media platform last year, Twitter signed a multi-year contract with Google related to fighting spam and protecting accounts, among other things, the report said.

Sounds like it's not about hosting their infrastructure but tangential services.

Of course Elon Musk thinks he can anti-spam and protect accounts better by himself and without external cost.

I'd love to see cloud hosters refusing to work with Elon Musk because of all the unpaid bills stuff.

forksandspoons , in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

How fast can one really read 6000 post ? Assuming you read 100 post a minute, is that 1 hour of usage before getting cut off for the day? I dont really have a feeling how many posts a normal twitter user would go through in a minute.

browslings ,

I assume it’s like api calls where it costs me two calls to write this response. One to view yours and one to write this reply.

Right now there are about 200 posts on this thread so if I scroll through this thread it would cost me 200 calls.

forksandspoons ,

Im not familiar with the lemmy source code but i would imagine it would batch fetch comments all at once with one api call (or maybe a few if the thread is big enough). Fewer api calls is less load on a lemmy server, less chance that any one of the calls them fails, etc. At least, if i wrote lemmy id i would do something like that.

Dran_Arcana ,

It stops scrapers mostly, but also public frontends like nitter from serving Twitter data to more than a person or two. It’s a pretty transparent “hit the low hanging fruit” attempt to get people logged in and viewing ads that they can track to more-expensive-per-click users (ones that can be targeted more specifically than browser fingerprinting + geodata

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