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YoFrodo ,

This argument is hilarious with the intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different. Both Dem and Repub support Israel and the arms deals. Dems are still far better for the US though

I wish they didn’t support Isreal with weapons but here we are

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

This argument is hilarious with the intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different.

There is no such implication.

Both Dem and Repub support Israel and the arms deals.

Correct, liberals are pretending otherwise.

YoFrodo ,

There is no such implication.

Yes there lmao. Otherwise the meme would have “US GOVT” at the bottom, but by only calling out Dems its trying to imply that the only other viable party is somehow different.

And liberals/dems/the left know this. They either support Israel too or are outspoken against it, hence the protests that are ignored or demonized by the media.

Cowbee ,
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Yes there lmao. Otherwise the meme would have “US GOVT” at the bottom, but by only calling out Dems its trying to imply that the only other viable party is somehow different.

Wrong, it’s highlighting to liberals and dems that their party is also complicit in genocide, which they are currently firmly denying.

And liberals/dems/the left know this. They either support Israel too or are outspoken against it, hence the protests that are ignored or demonized by the media.

Why are you grouping in the Left with liberals and dems?

YoFrodo ,

You are being purposefully obtuse if you think this mean isnt attempting to put Dems in a spot where Repubs arent.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

On the contrary, it’s putting the Dems in a spot where the Repubs are.

YoFrodo ,

I agree, that is the reality, but by only calling out Dems its implying Repubs are different. To me that is the apparent purpose of this meme.

“Oh, Dems turn a blind eye to genocide in Palestine” true, but Repubs do as well. Its almost the whole of US Congress that is complicit.

Cowbee ,
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I agree, that is the reality, but by only calling out Dems its implying Repubs are different. To me that is the apparent purpose of this meme.

You’re on a Communist community, you aren’t going to find fans of the GOP.

“Oh, Dems turn a blind eye to genocide in Palestine” true, but Repubs do as well. Its almost the whole of US Congress that is complicit.

Correct, but this statement is bannable on Lemmy.world.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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The intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different.

Republicans don’t pretend to advocate for a ceasefire.

TheDarksteel94 ,

Exactly, especially not in schools

Linkerbaan OP ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Good thing the Democrats are supporting like 5 Columbine school shooting tier massacres on children in Gaza every single day.

Israel has bombed eight schools in Gaza in just 10 days

MeowZedong ,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

This argument is hilarious with the intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different

Irrelevant hypothetical. The Democrats are complicit in an ongoing genocide.

Dems are still far better for the US though

Keep dreaming. They’ve been telling you this for decades, but there’s functionally no difference at home (besides the crackdown on protests against the genocide, fascism much?). Roe v Wade was overturned under Democrats despite them using the abuser logic, “if you don’t vote for us, our opponents will take away this right.” Speaking of, the Democrats have had multiple opportunities to codify RvW over the last 50 years, times when they had super majorities, but they didn’t. The Democrats decided to hold it over our heads as a threat instead. The Democrats decided to allow the Republicans to bully them into filling SCOTUS with right-wingers who would support their agenda. The Democrats have fulfilled none of their domestic policy promises to the people (only wealthy “investors,” let’s be honest, they aren’t contributing to campaigns, they are investing in the ability to shape policy), they have taken no actions to address the frequent abuses of the filibuster made by Republicans, and they’ve by far been the more deadly of these two parties when it comes to foreign policy (sanctions) and military operations.

How much longer are you going to continue eating their shit and pretending it’s chocolate? Do you really think you are so helpless as to have no option but to vote for one of these two parties? Do you think the only political action you can take is donating, campaigning for one of two shitty parties, and voting? Oops, my favored political party is doing shit I don’t want (contributing to a genocide), but I’m not going to do shit and will still vote for them despite that.

Quit your shit and just own it. I’d say it’s hilarious, but it just isn’t anymore. You want to vote for fascists, you are pressuring others to vote for fascists, and it’s either because you fucking want fascists in power or you don’t want to oppose these fascists. You are supporting a genocide and it’s sickening.

Just shut the fuck up with the fascist apologia and classic liberal moral grandstanding. No one buys the lie that the Democrats are the morally superior party anymore. The Democrats aren’t progressive and never will be. Your support of them reflects on you and your values. You aren’t progressive, you support these fucking ghouls despite claiming to have morals and values and desires that are opposite of the actions your chosen party is taking.

Get fucked.

dessalines ,

The Obama administration dropped an average of 60 bombs every single day, on the middle east and north africa, during his presidency.

Has there been any reckoning or reflection on that atrocity, within the democratic party?

antmzo220 , (edited )

Dems are still far better for the US though

I wish they didn’t support Isreal with weapons but here we are

I genuinely don’t understand how y’all say this with a straight face. You can’t justify genocide with any other policies. It’s literally just “atleast Mussolini made the trains run on time” fascist apologia.

You are in the “in group” for the Democrats right now so you aren’t being harmed. That doesn’t change the fact they have a harmful ideology that pushes and normalizes fascism and genocide, and it doesn’t protect you in the long run to support/ encourage those sentiments. You just normalize them and strengthen them for the opponent to use, “first they came for…”.

(…I was going to use the harsh border/immigration policies to make a comparison at first, but unfortunately these policies and sentiments have already been co-opted and normalized by the Democrats as well…)

dessalines ,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7872c0e8-6aa2-4227-aee8-ef90132b6a76.jpeg

Cowbee ,
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Liberals thinking Harris can get a ceasefire while also promising to never stop giving Israel bombs to kill Palestinians with would be funny if it weren’t utterly depraved.

antmzo220 ,

“we will push Democrats left by giving them what they want and not even allowing anyone to criticize them” ~ Blue MAGAs solution to the rise of fascism.

And

“We will push netanyahu left by giving him what he wants and not even allowing anyone to criticize him” ~ Democratic partys solution to an existing fascist Genocide.

At least it’s a consistent ideology… of appeasement…

orca ,
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“We’ll keep the genocide going but change our public language to make it sound like a ceasefire is on the table.”

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