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AllOutOfBubbleGum ,

I’m one of the dozen people that bought premium to not have to deal with it. I’m just patiently waiting for alternatives to become more viable so I can jump ship entirely. YouTube is the last remaining Google service I still use.

Wilzax ,

You have funded the enemy.

AllOutOfBubbleGum ,

From what I’ve read, YouTubers don’t get paid from views that use an ad-blocker, but they still do from views that have premium, so my justification is that I’m helping support the creators I like. I’m also paying for Nebula, which some of the documentary-style creators upload to as well now.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Youtube’s crackdown on adblocker usage has created a huge Streisand effect. There’s a lot of people all over the world that would’ve never known about adblockers if youtube just didn’t say anything and didn’t do exactly what they did.

Now, all the major adblockers and ad-blocking browsers have stepped their game up and made it so people can still block ads on youtube.

There’s userscripts you can get from greasyfork…or is it greaseyfork that allow you to bypass all of youtube’s bullshit.

100% of the videos that actually belong on youtube are almost always demonetized anyway.

If you’re not constantly getting demonetized on every video you put out, despite bending over backwards to follow the rules, you’re doing something wrong.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

Not to mention that Vanced-type apps and content mirrors are still going strong, and proper alternative platforms like Grayjay and Nebula are getting more attractive.

I wonder how soon self-hosted video distribution will be feasible. Does ActivityPub support that yet?

theEmeraldM ,

I think Peertube fits that description: “PeerTube is a self-hosted ActivityPub-federated video streaming platform using P2P directly in your web browser.”

bleistift2 ,

There’s a lot of people all over the world that would’ve never known about adblockers

I see this sentiment a lot. Is there any reliable data to support it?

Somerefriedbeans ,

Not OP but in my personal experience I’ve talked to countless people that had no idea watching YouTube without ads is possible (without paying) and their minds were blown. With Google calling out attention to it like this, I’m sure many will get curious. Most people don’t use their electronics beyond basic functionality…

And tbh you’re gonna be hard pressed to get real data of how many ppl are suddenly finding out about it.

Burstar ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Exhibit A: Youtube premium

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

yes, ublock, adguard and brave all stepped up their game

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

No one can beat Ublock Origin

Rolive ,

I hope it stays that way.

Roopappy ,

This just in: Google suddently discontinues support for popular and profitable ad blocker blocker blocker blocker, because literally all they know how to do is kill things that work.

aluminium ,

God I love the web platform!

MargotRobbie , (edited )

It’s times like these that online advertisements need to get creative to get ahead in this never ending adblocking arms race, just like the very subtle advertisement in the car chase scene in the Academy Award nominated film, “Barbie”, now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services.

Foggyfroggy ,

I know right? The other day I was drinking a coke and wondering about side effects of weight loss drugs such as Ozempic, and it occurred to me that advertising could be a lot more creative and subtle.

MargotRobbie ,

But there is something to be said about superliminal messaging as well.

Instead of trying to subtly influence people to watch your movie, why not tell them directly to watch your movie instead?

CoggyMcFee ,

Forget telling you, they should just start playing the movie and bill you

booly ,

Rick Astley has been doing this for years!

zarathustrad ,

Inside, we both know what’s been going on We know the game and we’re gonna play it.

iampivot ,

Sneaky upvote!

mariusafa ,

What of I told you there is an easier way of blocking ads: noscript.

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

I guess you haven’t heard they’re experimenting with injecting ads right into the videos on the server. Just turning off scripts won’t do anything for that.

mariusafa ,

Yeah I’ve seen it on twitch. We are joeover.

TwanHE ,

Sponsor block gives me a nice list of options to do in that case: skip automatically, show a skip button or ignore. All based on what type of interruption there is.

spongeborgcubepants ,

Depending on your country, these ads still need to be marked clearly as such. And for accessibility reasons, that mark will always be machine readable.

So blockers will be fine.

nexussapphire ,

So the final step is the internet blows up?

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Youtube is wasting ressources, it’s a fight they can’t win

Freefall ,

Exactly this. They ALWAYS lose this fight.

cRazi_man , (edited )

They have infinite resources. They’re making gestures to dissuade normies. I suspect this will get them most of the result they want. They’re also wasting time, effort and resources of adblock programmers (and that is a far more limited resource).

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Sure but as long as there is a least one dedicated bearded dude hidden in a dark underground room behind his screen, they will be defeated. No matter how much they spent on the new technology. What I mean is that devs might burn out, they will still be replaced by others. And we get such people faster than youtube is able to burn them out

lemonmelon ,

If they had infinite resources, they wouldn’t need to worry about adblockers.

Lyricism6055 ,

They aren’t worried about them. They are squeezing what they can out of the platform.

Iirc YouTube has a positive revenue now

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Because they wouldn’t need advertising?

zarathustrad ,

They don’t need to actually unblock everything. They just need to convince their advertisers and stock holders they are.

reddithalation ,

nah, if they embed the ad into the video stream (they were testing this for some users!), the only adblocking option will be to blank out the screen and wait through the ad (or download the video in advance and edit the ad out automatically), both of which would make it a lot more annoying to adblock than currently.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

No, you just need to skip the ad. Sponsorblock has been working for years now, solving pretty much the same problem

Zwiebel ,

Sponsor Block relies on the ads being at the same timestamp for all users

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

They can be detected

reddithalation ,

nope, the ad time varies unlike a sponsor segment, and also youtube would not let you skip through an ad while streaming it, whereas sponsors you can, hence the download and edit out with LLM or whatever algorithm works best

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

It can be detected

reddithalation ,

yes, but if youtube only serves you the real video chunks after your client plays through the ad chunks (all in the same media stream to the client), theres gonna be some waiting involved, not like adblocking today where it is instant.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

You could trick youtube into believing you are ahead in the video so that it fills the buffer earlier

DevilOfDoom ,

YouTube Revanced already has a blocker for sponsor segments embedded in the video.

reddithalation ,

you can skip through sponsor segments, but these are ads from youtube, not from the creator, and youtube will not let you conveniently skip through the ads. if implemented correctly, youtube could ensure that the ad is fully played, which would need downloading and automatic editing to counter.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

How would they determine if the ad is played without trusting the client? I guess they could screw with the buffer, but that would really piss of people with poor internet, and most people would prefer an ad-length black screen to whatever attention wrenching dark pattern manipulative brown noise wants to infect your mind today.

reddithalation ,

That is an interesting question. From what I know, youtube has every video in chunks that they serve to the client, and so server side ad injection is just serving some ad chunks before the video. I think you’re right with the buffer thing, it seems to me like the only way to make sure the client can’t skip it would be to make the buffer shorter, impacting some people (although seems like only really people with internet thats fast enough for streaming some seconds, but not other seconds, which is an odd catagory)

Ultimately it would be a tradeoff for youtube, but the fact that they put the effort into doing mass testing of the idea at all shows that clearly there are some good incentives, and it may eventually be implemented.

zarathustrad ,

Don’t worry, I have been using the powerful technology of “the mute button” and “doing other stuff” since before cable TV existed. We always have alternatives.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is actually one of very few valid cases for an LLM, to help sponsorblock determine ad segments by analyzing the word choice and speech patterns in segments of the video.

xJREB ,

Is Google Chrome fighting uBlock country-specific? I use Chrome on Win 10 with uBlock and haven’t seen a YouTube ad outside of the mobile app in ages. For me, uBlock never stopped working in Chrome and I watch YouTube videos every 1-2 days.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Ublock publishes patches so fast you never had a problem

xJREB ,

Wow, these guys are even more awesome than I thought then…

misterundercoat ,

Mushroom mushroom

aStonedSanta ,

Ad ad oooohhhhh it’s an ad.

PersonalDevKit ,

It’s a big ad It’s a big ad Fooooooorrr beer youtu.be/_wM2c3WtDjQ?si=7G_HBu8FMGMZpdoe

Mushroom mushroom badger badger

JargonWagon ,

Ad blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker

Koyaanisqatsi ,

Blocker & Blocker

2 Blocker 2 Blocked

Blocker Tokyo Drift

…

Zdvarko ,

Block of the Bockers; Return of the Blockings

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

BlocX

tominator ,

The Final Blocker

The Final Blocker 2: Electric Boogaloo

solidgrue ,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

Blocker
Blockers
Blocker 3
Blocker Resurrection
Blocker vs Inline
Blocker vs Inline: Requiem
Revanced
Blocker: Covenant
Blocker: Romulus

CeeBee_Eh ,

The new timeline reboot:

  • Blocker: The beginning
  • The Blocker Returns
  • The Dark Blocker
  • Blocker Homecoming
  • Rise of the Blockers
  • Dawn of the Blockers
  • War of the Blockers
  • Kingdom of the Blockers

And to bring it full circle:

  • Planet of the Blockers
yngmnwntr ,

I truly hope the new planet of the apes franchise is building to an actual planet of the apes remake. Time traveling astronauts and shattered statue of liberty. I feel like they’re already sowing the seeds for human mutants living underground worshipping an unexploded atomic bomb. Man those movies were weird.

DNOS ,

YouTube can definitely afford a war ship and pay people to shoot…we may have enough people to operate a death star for free but can we afford one ?

madcaesar ,

The image doesn’t quite work because youtube needs a MASSIVE solution that works, scales, doesn’t fuck up their infrastructure and on and on and on.

Meanwhile on the user front, all your doing essentially is just skipping parts of a video, that will always be infinitely cheaper easier to do. Challenging for sure, but the solution can be small.

Even something as stupid as delaying your video start by 1 min, pre buffering then skipping ads. It’s brute force and barbaric but the point is that Google can’t do shit against that.

My ultimate vision is AI that preloads videos you want and detects ads / sponsor segments and just skips them / cuts them out on your device.

Bytemeister ,

Another way to think about it… YouTube has huge amounts of compute resources, but per user it’s an extremely small amount. Your phone has orders of magnitude more power to dedicate to you than YouTube does. Collectively, we have more processing power than YouTube.

bykdd ,

as a firefox user i cant give up and just installed freetube, exported everything from yt. its great

heavy ,

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