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Russian communism: ~5M dead in the Holodemor

Chinese communism: ~15-55M dead in the Great Famine

Even with these inflated numbers, they are no match for the numbers of people intentionally killed by capitalism and feudalism, let alone starvation under capitalism and feudalism.

Plugging the book “late Victorian holocausts”

Cambodian communism: >1M dead in the Killing Fields

inb4 not real communism

If you believe the Cambodians were communists, you have to believe that the nazis were. Except in Pol Pots case, he only claimed to be socialist for a few years of their decades long operations. I am choosing you believe you’re not that gullible so I must assume you are ignorant of their history.

Muh “you can’t criticize socialism because you don’t understand THEORY”. You probably don’t understand capitalism either outside of socialist critiques of it. Then how can you be so certain of what capitalists believe?

Literally took years of capitalist economics in high school and college, it is one of the reasons I’m a communist.

“I can’t help EVERYONE so I’m just not gonna help ANYONE”.

More like “the issue is systemic and requires systemic solutions, not charity”

*goes off and tries to convince people to follow an ideology that only works if everyone believes in it.

Chinese feudal landlords didn’t believe in socialism, that didn’t stop the communists from doing land reform.

Can you name one socialist revolution that hasn’t involved massive amounts of murder and violence?

By definition revolutions involve violence. Are you condemning the capitalist revolutions that threw off the monarchies? The status quo involved comparatively massive amounts of violence then, and it does now.

But also, an example of socialists gaining power through the ballot box was in Chile. The US ended up funding, training, and equipping right wing death squads to kill (and worse) Chilean communists, teachers, trade unionists, indigenous people, and random people. Chile became an extraordinary violent right wing capitalist dictatorship.

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