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grue ,

Man, we as a community really ought to put more effort and resources helping out FreeCAD.

mvirts ,

For me it’s all about learning freecad so I can look down upon the cloud cad peasants 😹

For real though I completely agree. Freecad is just a plugin away from having a more accessible UI.

Jumuta , (edited )

the ui is actually pretty good when you get used to it imo, it’s just that it’s very busy and intimidating for beginners

I think there should just be a simple builtin tutorial that beginners can access, that guides them through making a cylinder or something to assure them that freecad isn’t as intimidating as it looks

mvirts ,

That’s a good idea, and I think that teaching yourself parametric CAD for the first time in freecad is extra difficult because it is easy to do things that look like they may work but actually break you model (especially dragging stuff around in the hierarchy).

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

The best parametric CAD tutorials I found were those for OnShape.

anivia ,

Onshape and Fusion360 both have tons of great tutorials available, and they are completely free for non-commercial use. There is a reason those are used by almost everyone in the 3d printing community.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

“And they are completely free for non-commercial use.” I have seen both of their “community” or “maker” tiers get worse over time; the terms of those licenses becoming less permissive. I’ve been told by an Autodesk employee that it doesn’t exist for Fusion360. “There is no free software here.” I suggest against building anything that matters to you against those platforms.

bluewing ,

As long as you don’t need much, they are free. But, the good stuff is all pay to play.

sexual_tomato ,

I’m a mechanical engineer and have spent literal years in front of Creo and SolidWorks. Trying to use FreeCAD felt like flying a Cessna 172 after being accustomed to a business jet; they can ostensibly get you where you need to go, but the cost in effort to use the tool is not worth the cost saved in buying the commercial tool.

Jumuta ,

totally get your point but I just don’t want to relearn the cad program when those proprietary options inevitably enshittify lmao

possiblylinux127 ,

Foss tends to struggle with UI design. Gnome is the best UI I have scene from an app UI perspective.

bluewing ,

FreeCAD’s UI is good enough to work, but not to everyone’s taste. Personally, I detest the clown car UI of Fusion and it’s lack of customization for my work flow - custom pie menus rock. Something that FreeCAD allows the user to do. Not to mention the half-assed mix of local install/cloud that is Fusion360. It locks your projects in the cloud subject to AutoDesk’s whims, but eats your local storage. At least OnShape and TinkerCAD is all cloud and honest about it. But it’s all pay to play if you want access to the good stuff.

They are improving the FreeCAD UI slowly. The Ondsel version, (based on the 0.22 Dev release), gets high marks from a lot of users about the UI design. Not my personal cup 'o tea, but I do see the allure for many users. Besides, if you don’t like how it works, you can easily customize things to your personal tastes.

WagnasT ,

I try to use dxf instead of dwg when I can, it’s got everything I need. I think the public sector should require open standards for submissions.

stoi ,

Ondsel

They are really putting in the work to make FreeCAD not suck. I was a SolidWorks pro and still found FreeCAD quite unintuitive to use. Ondsel has fixed a lot of those issues… looking at you dimensioning tool. It also “just works” on Linux which is really nice (a friend tried on windows and not so much lol)

pineapplelover ,

There’s also Blender and Openscad. Both really good

grue ,

They’re both really good (considerably better at what they do than FreeCAD is, to be honest), but they don’t do what FreeCAD does. Blender is for art, so that’s a different thing entirely. OpenSCAD does mechanical part design, but it only does mechanical part design. FreeCAD can do architectural CAD, BIM (Building Information Modeling), civil engineering stuff (e.g. working with survey data/site elevation), FEA (Finite Element Analysis), 2D drafting, stuff with NURBS and point clouds, texturing/lighting/rendering, CAM and CNC (i.e. toolpaths for a mill or 3D printer), etc.

pineapplelover ,

I have actual designed 3d print stuff in Blender and it turned out fine. There are people out there who only use Blender for 3d modeling and there are even plug ins that allow better functionality. Though, I’ve been trying to transition to Freecad since it’s much more cad focused.

ian ,
@ian@feddit.uk avatar

Yes. For me, creating car body shells, FreeCAD doesn’t come close. It seems most FOSS programmers don’t need complex shape surfacing to scratch an itch, so that is a long way off. For now.

possiblylinux127 ,

I wish the had some sort of paid version. (No proprietary software though)

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

First person to come up with a time machine, can you make your first trip back to the early 80s and buy 86-DOS and open source it before Bill gets his grubby hands on it?

Petter1 ,

…and make it unix based, for good lord, I hate CMD/ps commands

Spiralvortexisalie ,

Plot twist, you have to partner with Richard Stallman for the first open source licensing to get off the ground and end up with GNU plus BSD and its all powershell commands.

Petter1 ,

😱😭😫🤬

pressanykeynow ,

Probably wouldn’t work as GPL license was published much later in 1989.

barsquid ,

Imagine traveling back in time and casting 21st century witchcraft like the AGPL.

Shanedino ,

On a more serious note as a windows user it just does a good enough job that I don’t want to put in any effort for something better.

pikachus_ghost_uncle ,

Same but the moment windows 10 shits the bed I may be looking at more serious alternate offerings.

possiblylinux127 ,

That is 70% of the world probably

Aurenkin ,

I dream of a world where I don’t have to dual boot.

EherNicht ,

Due to planned virtualisation in Windows this will probably soon be the case for people who Dual boot due to anticheat.

Aurenkin ,

That would be awesome! There’s still the odd game I can’t run unrelated to anti cheat but that would still be a huge win.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Due to planned virtualisation in Windows

I must have missed something. What are you referencing with this comment?

EherNicht ,

They want to prevent spooky programs running in the kernel (like crowdstrike) which may break the whole system. Source: theverge.com/…/microsoft-windows-changes-crowdstr…

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

please.

EherNicht ,

It seems quite likely actually. The only problem might be them noticing the benefit for GNU/Linux.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Perhaps I’m being dense but how do you see this helping Linux Gaming?

Even assuming that VBS-E allows Game Devs to shift their current kernel based anti-cheat over to it there’s no guarantee that Linux will get a compatible VBS-E module nor that Game Devs would allow its use.

I guess I see it as: If a Game Dev does this (use VBS-E) AND Linux gets a compatible module AND Game Devs allow its use THEN newer games may not have the same problem with anti-cheat as older ones.

EherNicht , (edited )

The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access. So the anticheat has to run in userspace. This can also be done under GNU/Linux which is why anticheat should work on both platforms.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access.

Yes, if we assume that various institutions (cough cough looking at you EU) allow MS to remove kernel access.

So the anticheat has to eun in userspace.

VSB-E isn’t really “user space” but your point about the kernel is valid.

hich is why anticheat should

The word “should” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Even if it COULD that doesn’t mean devs will allow it nor does it mean that existing games will get updated on EITHER platform. Removing a kernel level anti-cheat could easily be the death of some older games on Windows as the owner simply doesn’t want to put the money into making it work.

I’m honestly not too sure how possible it is to make VSB-E work on *nix either, since it appears to use Microsoft Hyper-V technologies at its core and those wouldn’t be available in *nix. That means that we’d be back to Game Devs having to specifically write anti-cheat for *nix…which is something they can already do if they want.

VSB-E is interesting but I’m not convinced its going to do anything for Linux Gaming at all. Hopefully I am wrong. :)

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

Out of curiosity what do you dual boot for? I used to dual boot for gaming but I’ve lately found that proton works very well with my games and there is no need to run Windows for anything

Aurenkin ,

Yeah proton works really well for me for the vast majority of my games but there are a few that don’t. I dual boot solely to play those.

  • Star Citizen - much worse performance for me using Linux.
  • Cyberpunk - Used to work fine but started crashing on Linux for me
  • Counter Strike 2 - Audio cuts out after about 15 - 20 minutes on Linux.
  • Supreme Commander - Frequent crashes on Linux.

I think people can run most of those fine but I haven’t had luck and don’t spend much time tinkering.

skulblaka , (edited )
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Cyberpunk works great on Proton 7. I was playing it last night. It crashes on updated/experimental Proton but by forcing compatibility to Proton 7.0-6 I played for about 4 hours with no issues.

index ,

There are plenty of games that runs on linux just fine

libregaming.org/play-libre-games/

The games you mentioned don’t seem to have anything so special that they are worth trading for your privacy and freedom over.

Aurenkin , (edited )

How dramatic.

EDIT: In the dramatic spirit though.

It’s too late for me, friend. The trap was baited with the frivolous and delightful outputs of an unethical capitalist machine and I was ensnared. I am now doomed to forever carry out a small percentage of my computing tasks in the glass cage of OS lock in and corporate surveillance. It’s not too late for others, though, you can still save yourself. Leave me to my fate, my only solace is that my experience may be a lesson to others.

index ,

Na it’s not to late, just try different games and experience new OS. After a while your thirst for playing specific games simply goes away and you will feel as much comfortable playing games on linux.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

This is the part where you name the games you like so we trash talk them back.

index ,

Endless sky Mindustry Minetest 0ad Battle for Wesnoth

veng ,

CS2: Try using -sdlaudiodriver pipewire in launch options

anivia ,

I dualboot Linux and hackintosh, mostly for Affinity and Fusion360

FiniteBanjo ,

TBH you could just pick one of them and run the other as a virtual machine.

Uli ,

Just built my first fully dedicated Linux machine. Still keeping my old Windows desktop around purely because I play League of Legends and they use a kernel level anticheat, so it won’t run on VM.

Fun fact, ever since Riot made it mandatory to install their rootkit if you want to play their games, every time I try to eject a flash drive, it says it can’t eject because it’s in use - even if I just plugged it in. And that’s super comforting.

DerisionConsulting ,

It’s not like Riot Games is fully owned by Tencent or anything…

But if you still want to play the game, having a computer that you only use for league, with nothing else installed, is the best way to go about it

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

The best sandbox is made of bare metal.

riodoro1 ,

They rootkit your personal device but everything in the name of addictive entertainment.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Fair, addictive entertainment, Vanguard was the only anticheat that was able to ban people using dedicated hacking cards on their PCIe slot. I know it’s scary to have something like that on kernel level, but we only reached this place because cheaters are fine letting random hackers run kernel level cheats on their devices just to win.

possiblylinux127 ,

I’m just waiting for one of these companies to pull a Crowdstrike

mergingapples ,

Alright, as much as I want to give Microsoft the double birds and leave, way too many modding programs are .exe based.

And I just cannot yet be fucked to learn how to do per-app emulation. It scares me, things just sort of work here, and I can give them one and a half birds by removing almost all their telemetry garbage.

That being said I do really like the idea of Linux, I just want a little bit more idiot friendliness out of it

trashgirlfriend ,

HOW DARE YOU NOT WANNA SPEND 8 HOURS A DAY FIXING YOUR SETUP

mergingapples ,

Who the hell is down voting this? This couldn’t be more satire if it tried!

trashgirlfriend ,

People are silly

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

apparently dankpods got a few mods working on beam ng.

rtxn ,

I have a Windows VM specifically for that purpose. Game directories are mounted as network drives. The only issue is that I can’t use hardlink deployment in Vortex, but Nexus is making a new app to replace it that might have a Linux-native release.

mergingapples ,

Mounting games to your virtual machine as a network drive? That sounds like a rather tricky workaround. Has it given you much trouble?

rtxn ,

I use Virtualbox’s shared folders, they appear as network drives in the guest machine. It hasn’t given me any trouble, but like I said, it’s limited to what you can do with a network share on Windows, so no links.

Cethin ,

Yeah, modding you mostly have to do manually, but it’s pretty easy. Most modern games that’s just moving a bunch of folders into a folder the game has. Nexus is working on a Linux version though so hopefully that’ll be ready soon, which should cover the majority of games.

As for running the games (not emulation, WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator), you don’t really have to do anything. They almost all just work. You just click play through Steam (or whatever you’re using to play, Lutris is a good option outside of Steam) and they launch, just like in Windows. You can choose to tweak things, but there’s no real need unless you want to do something weird.

It’s more idiot friendly than you’d expect. You just have to enter it knowing it isn’t Windows, so some thing will work differently than Windows. If you expect identical behavior to Windows then it can be annoying. You had to learn Windows at one point too, and you’ll have to learn how your Linux environment behaves too.

I would recommend something with KDE (a desktop environment), because it’s easy to use coming from a Windows user. Maybe Fedora. Just try it with a live USB and see how it feels. You don’t even have to install it immediately.

mergingapples ,

That’s an idea, for sure… Ehh, why not, I’ll see if I have a big enough flash drive laying around that can do that.

possiblylinux127 ,

I personally wouldn’t recommend KDE unless you like customization and modding. It has lots of configuration options that can prove overwhelming. It also often prioritizes new features over completing existing ones.

possiblylinux127 ,

What apps?

Bottles works well for some things

mergingapples ,

I do not know what those are. So, another reason then: still ignorant

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

their ecosystem of apps is buggy as fuck.

teams and outlook always gives me headaches.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

Ugh, outlook has been dropping support for email standards for a while now, it’s getting close to a proprietary standard now.

Lucidlethargy ,

Teams is genuinely hot garbage. Outlook is actually far worse, even… The latest versions are buggy and broken.

Crikeste ,

What the fuck is all this anti-Windows 11 talk? I have never had a problem with it. Is it because of functionality or something else? Because, functionality wise, it’s been fine for me. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Oh shit I didn’t realize this was in Linux. Welp o7 I go down with my ship lmao

Lazycog ,
@Lazycog@sopuli.xyz avatar

Brave of you to walk into the lion’s linux den with that

Crikeste ,

I was genuinely like, “oh no no no no” when I noticed. But oh well, it’s kinda funny to me.

Lazycog ,
@Lazycog@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah I got a laugh from the edit as well, this is a meme community after all.

possiblylinux127 ,

Well I find it perfectly fine to use in a VM

paddirn ,

I used Win10 mostly without issue and when I transitioned to Win11 that went without issue as well and it’s been pretty much smooth sailing the whole time. The few annoyances I had with it, I was able to find something that fixed the issue, it just works. The only thing I really didn’t like was that the only reason I transitioned to Win11 as early as I did was because of an update they sent out that made it sound at the time like I had to switch over, something about the wording made it seem like I had no choice, I remember it being a bit confusingly worded. I had wanted to hold out as long as possible on Win10, but because of that went ahead with the switch. It’s been fine since then, but I would’ve preferred not having to switch because of that.

Dicska ,

I’m just guessing, I’m still using Windows (though I would have made the swap literally decades ago if the games I like in particular ran on Linux just as fine): it’s not about functionality; Windows was designed to be a great tool to do your business.

It’s everything else that you pay in return, the price being the least of the problems. Forced ads, forced software, insane amount of “telemetry” (half of which is just data collection for their own gains), to name a few. Year by year it’s getting harder, more complicated and more tedious (and less and less doable) to remove all the forced ads, reverse all the forced program defaults and automatic bloat. If you have to look it up on the Internet how you need to edit the registry to be able to stop certain processes/services that annoy you, then it means they don’t want you to stop the annoyance. A few patches later you can’t even do it. Dishonest stuff like that.

If you’re fine with everything that Win11 means, including stuff that drives others up the wall, then Win11 is for you and there’s nothing wrong with that.

As much as others here love to shit on certain games (like League of Legends or Valorant), I still find them fun to play and I wouldn’t want to say goodbye to them just because otherwise I’d prefer Linux. There’s a reason they aren’t supported on various OS’s at the same time (developing anti cheat on multiple systems is just super labour intensive, and opens up way too many loopholes/exploits/bugs for cheat developers), and it pretty much applies to ANY multiplayer game. If I only played single player games I would switch in an instant.

morbidcactus , (edited )

I really dislike the locking of the taskbar to the bottom, having to click twice to see all my right click options, having to dig through multiple layers of menus to find a setting, not a fan of copilot being pushed in the OS (though I did totally use cortana back in the day, had some somewhat nice assistant features like traffic monitoring to recommend when I left for work), generally not a fan of for lack of better term “streamlining”, it’s mostly minor annoyances and the like but they add up.

I do really like Auto HDR, winget being there ootb (I think? Was amazing when I migrated work computers), windows terminal is straight up fantastic. It’s still definitely useable, it’s just only on my work machines (no choice, but I live in the terminal, text editors and browser for almost everything so OS doesn’t really matter much to me) and my desktop, run linux on everything else.

MeaanBeaan ,

Right now it’s pretty much just HDR and music production softwares that don’t run on Linux.

iLL_Behaviour ,

Reaper runs on Linux

MeaanBeaan ,

True. However Most of the plugins I use don’t.

Also, I’m an FL Studio guy though learning reaper wouldn’t be out of the question if my plugins worked.

possiblylinux127 ,

I think we just need more options for creative software

Dicska ,

Multiplayer (competitive?) gaming in general is pretty poorly supported on Linux. It’s not necessarily Linux’s fault: it’s enough to deal with one OS’s loopholes as an anti cheat developer, let alone two or more; but if you happen to actually enjoy playing games like Valorant, League of Legends, PUBG, Counter Strike or basically most of the big names, then, unfortunately, you don’t really have a choice.

I’ve been waiting for the (nearly?) full compatibility of multiplayer games for 20 years. I would love to solely use Linux, but I’m afraid it’s not just HDR or music production.

blindbunny ,

Have you checked out ardour?

felsiq ,

Some desktop environments (plasma 6 at least) support it when running in Wayland - my daily driver for months has been an HDR setup (with a nvidia gpu, even) and it’s been great. It’s not quite ready for non-technical users, but imo it’s not far off and I can’t wait for it to be more common.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Windows is so unstable

TurtleTourParty ,

I switched to Linux on a laptop of mine because an update to windows caused it to not boot.

Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working, sometimes the keyboard freezing on resume, my Bluetooth not connecting on the first try, and my wifi sometimes not working, but it boots fine every time.

TheRedSpade ,

Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working

Could I get that problem please? Pretty much any keyboard anymore comes with a backlight which I can’t even imagine being useful to anyone who can type. If they provide a way to turn it off, it’s via Windows-only software.

stochasticity ,

I type in the dark sometimes. But it’s not on by default either.

BlemboTheThird ,

Have you tried different distros? Some hardware is supported better by different forks. I myself have an odd situation with an old laptop that got weird Bluetooth audio issues on stock Ubuntu, but having swapped it over to mint (which is supposedly just Ubuntu under the hood!) it works flawlessly.

TurtleTourParty ,

I have, it works better on Fedora than PopOS or ubuntu. There’s actually a fix for the 17 inch version of my laptop in the main kernel, but it explicitly mentions the full model number so doesn’t apply to my 13 inch version. I spent a long time trying and failing to figure out how to build a kernal with a patch for my model.

possiblylinux127 ,

It is pretty solid unless you are going way off the rails. There are a lot of reasons not to like it but stability is not one of them (unless you are talking about non changing)

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve always had issues with windows. Something always starts fucking up.

possiblylinux127 ,

I haven’t had issues since Windows XP came out (mostly)

noxy ,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

HDR and VR, that’s it. And everything that isn’t gaming happens on my Framework laptop running NixOS anyways.

possiblylinux127 ,

Windows 10 and Windows 11 are basically the same

Prove me wrong

drq ,
@drq@mastodon.ml avatar

@possiblylinux127 Windows 11 is Windows 10 with worse Start menu.

@cordlessterry

a1ba ,
@a1ba@suya.place avatar

@drq @possiblylinux127 @cordlessterry Windows 11 and Windows 10 are basically the same

Both are trash

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

I need to click twice to get to the 7zip options.

PrinzKasper ,
@PrinzKasper@feddit.org avatar

NanaZip is a fork of 7Zip that integrates nicely with the Win11 context menu

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

Ooo, nice fork.

Too bad it doesn’t fix the 17 other context options though. If I’m getting software specifically to circumvent W11, that means I can modify my installation. There’s so much more I’d do than a 7zip fork.

Sadly, most of my windows useage is going to be fleet machines, so even NanaZip is beyond my reach. W11 is still worse than W10.

possiblylinux127 ,

You can change that behavior in the registry

However, you do have a point

Infinitus ,

Have you ever tried installing 50 pc’s with windows 11 vs win10? A night and day difference. To clarify, win 10 is outrageously faster then win 11 where ms wants to have the system updated before you finish the initial setup. Whoever thought that this was a good idea should be fired.

EtherWhack ,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

Win11 didn’t even know what to do with my Intel (of all brands) WiFi chip.

Win10, Kubuntu, and mint all detected it without needing to download and transfer the driver with my phone in order to start the updates after install.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Yet mine was detected immediately and without issue, more anecdotes please.

mrvictory1 ,

One of our controllers (Logitech G710) works OOB on Win10 and Linux but not on Win11, a GitHub guide is needed. Also don’t ask me how Win11 uses 10GiB RAM on fresh boot.

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

Dual booting is still using Windows.

(I’m not saying dual booting is bad, I’m just saying it doesn’t count as not using Windows, which is what most Windows users are opposed to, not to dual-booting with Linux.)

bufalo1973 ,
@bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

You start dual-booting and end up booting always in Linux.

silasmariner ,

Well yeah because booting into Linux is so much faster

hemko ,

Where Linux?

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

Precisely.

This is a negative space meme. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_space

hemko ,

True, but Linux memes being 50% about macos/windows gets tiresome

patrlim ,

It was VR and davinci

Then I found out arch runs davinci flawlessly.

Now I have arch Linux and “VR mode” (windows)

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, VR doesn’t work on linux? But it’s SteamVR!

bcnelson ,

It does I play quite a bit of VR on Linux. The only think that does not work is the valve index audio output so I use Bluetooth earbuds

SkaveRat ,

Nooo. But the headphones on the index are the best part :( guess I’ll have to actually dual boot when I reset my gaming system to Linux soon

patrlim ,

I have a quest 2

That leaves me with envision or alvr. Both are terrible.

possiblylinux127 ,

Kdenlive

patrlim ,

Used to use it, but with the scale of my projects it’s now unbearably slow.

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