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How does everyone feel about Google Pixel phones?

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server’s not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it’s fun. So, let’s get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We’ll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I’ve never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I’ve been very critical of Google’s product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official “made by Google” phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it’s the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it’s Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don’t even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it’s against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can’t afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the “a” series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It’s also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

Saturdaycat ,
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I have a 6a and have been emulating games with it and playing remote play with my backbone. Super enjoying it

MrPloppy ,

Got a Pixel 6. Still loving the design, software and (reasonably) quick updates.

NightOwl ,

Google Pixels are the absolute best phones for custom roms and ones I feel best about when it comes to software support outlasting the hardware because of that. All the other phones might have better internals, but it’s the growing animosity towards unlocking bootloaders and rise in prices of phones hitting laptop prices without the long term software support to match that makes it seem less appealing than pixels to me.

MasterBuilder ,

This is my view, too. I still have my 2XL with fully updated LineageOS with MicroG, and it still feels “fast enough”. I got the P6 because the camera stopped working after 4 years and the battery and USB charging port got flakey.

However, after I went with a custom ROM, the USB/battery problems went away. I still use it.

If I can’t flash, I won’t buy.

SteadyGoLucky ,

I thought my Pixel 2 would be perfect for a custom rom. But then I found Google locked the bootloader for refurbished phones. I couldn’t find a way around that so now it’s a paperweight.

SpacemanSpiff ,

I’ve had Google phones since the Nexus line and all the odd numbered Pixels to include the 7 Pro. My wife has used the Samsung Note (I forget which versions) and is using the Samsung Fold now. I definitely like the Pixel line better than the Samsung phones she’s used primarily because of the monthly updates and a few features like call screening (you can even hear the person on the line while the Google message is playing to hear what they may be saying before you pick up or send them to VM) and call holding (the phone will monitor the call when I’m on hold and alert me when a person gets on the line.). The Pixel camera is pretty good, but I have to admit I like the Samsung Fold camera a little better.

mlg ,
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  • Stock Android missing so many apps because Google killed them for no reason
  • Google gets to shove gapps directly into your throat making you forget what android used to be
  • Partially responsible for ruining the android market and causing companies like HTC to drop out
  • Partially responsible for getting rid of android version names
  • Early models kinda sucked

Pretty much summed up all of my core issues already in your post lol.

Modern android sucks because of google

Garocho ,

What apps do you miss in stock android?

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Compass, old file explorer, music app, dictionary, builtin PDF viewer, Mail,

I think dictionary and PDF might have been removed very early on or was not part of stock, but the rest definitely used to be there.

Many were replaced by a google equivalent like Google Music which is now dead, or Gmail which used to be alongside Mail.

MargotRobbie OP ,
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Well, again, Google directly caused the Android fragmentation issues by de-GNUing Linux, so the bad parts of Android was because of Google from the beginning.

Sproux ,

What fragmentation issues are you referring to? And what does it mean when you say they “de-GNU’d” android

MargotRobbie OP ,
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Essentially, unlike the Linux on a PC or a server, every single Android phone has a very different Linux kernel built specifically for that particular phone, which is the reason that people need to build a custom rom (basically a device specific really old Linux kernel) for every phone instead of just installing something like a generic Ubuntu system.

Base Linux uses a lot of parts made by GNU, which is licensed under a strong copyleft clause, and Google doesn’t like that because they don’t like to share their source code, so, Google made an active effort to replace the GNU part of the base Linux kernel with something else to make Android to prevent that from happening.

Sproux ,

Thanks for the explaination, ive been wondering for a while why i couldn’t run say, graphine os on an unlocked Motorola.

Android sucks so bad and its gotten worse from 11 on, i really hope we get a competitor soon.

Deftdrummer ,

3rd pixel, and each one has had persistent problems. Not ready for primetime. Currently have the 6P and with the heat issues it has just been OK.

They still have yet to make a fully fleshed out product.

Link69 ,
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Great idea, meh execution

Unsaved5831 ,

Quite happy user of Pixel 6a. The only few annoying things are:

  • Under-the-screen fingerprint sensor works less than half of the time. At night and in bed, it blinds me.
  • Battery, despite adaptive battery, still feels surprisingly draining fast from time to time. The battery merely just hold for the day whereas I don’t even have that much screen time or background running apps.
ludwig ,

At night and in bed, it blinds me. You can add a setting to the quick settings drop down, that makes the screen go even dimmer.

Event_Horizon5 ,

I think he is talking about the fingerprint sensor. It blinds me at night too

ludwig ,

Ah, yes of course. It’s indeed pretty annoying.

poopsmith ,
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Under-the-screen fingerprint sensor works less than half of the time. At night and in bed, it blinds me.

This is my biggest complaint. The “old” style of fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone worked so well, but they replaced it with this shitty one.

Appoxo ,

My fingers usually work with the pixel 7 combined with a matte screen protector.

Zed ,

Pixel 6a user here, the fingerprint reader works 9/10 for me, only rarely refuses to unlock because of a misalignment or something, wondering how people who complain about it actually use it.

liara ,

I’ve managed to get in the habit of pointing the screen away from my eye sockets in bed when it’s dark. 60% of the time, it works every time

Neato ,
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Get the a series. Almost half the price for not many features missing. Same camera.

DeltaTangoLima ,
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After staying loyal to Samsung for about a decade, always with flagship models, I had a terrible experience with the Fold3. It was so bad that, when I finally pushed hard enough for Samsung Support to admit I’d been sold a lemon, I was ready to give up.

I sold the replacement Fold4 they sent me and got a Pixel 7. Honestlty, I now wish I hadn’t waited this long to make the jump.

Things I like the most:

  • The speed with which updates are released, directly: I’m accustomed to having to wait for my provider to release Samsung updates
  • The way the updates are applied: no more 30 minute reboots waiting for the Samsung firmware to install
  • The lack of bloatware: 'nuff said
  • The speed of the device itself: see above point

I guess the thing that nags at me the most is I still dislike Google as a company.

I haven’t explored custom ROMs yet - still unsure where that leaves me with access to my company’s resources (we have very stringent security policies, actively enforced), plus I need to do a heap of research to understand what (if any) features of the stock Pixel I’d lose. There may or may not be some deal breakers in that list.

Unfocused ,

I had the original pixel XL then switch to samsung s21 and now im on a pixel 7 and I can say with out doubt the the pixel 7 is way more responsive and feels so much faster then any samsung phone I have ever used. Samsung puts a lot of spyware bloatware crap on there phones. if you hook a samsung up to adb and have a look at the list of apps that are spying on you its insane, all the apps listed in the settings on the phone are not all the apps installed. lots of hidden apps running in the background. Something that would piss me off was every update installed a bunch of apps i never wanted and had removed previously. I have recently installed grapheneos and its amazing and seem less, I could install it on my moms phone and it would not be a problem. works just like any other android phone except google play is locked in a cage and can only do what you allow it to. I have google play services installed but basically took all its permissions away, so that the camera app and the few other apps that look for it are not bothering me about it. google play services never connects to the internet on my phone.

I will never go back to a samsung phone, I love the stock android experience its simple and no fluff.

Kwaker76 ,

Currently on my first - a Pixel 6 and I’m not sure I’d go back to a Galaxy which I always used to go for. The Pixel is quick and easy to use, takes great photos, and isn’t plagued by bloatware.

eth0slash0 ,

Galaxy Nexus to Pixel 6a (current) user. I did not have a pixel 1 or 2, but have had the rest. That Nexus 5x hung on for a while, as it should, being one of the best phones of all time, helping me skip right into pixel 3.

Side note: Nexus 7 was the greatest tablet of all time.

Out of any android, I preferred the nexus (now pixel) for it’s simplicity. It’s the way android was meant to be. Every other OEM is just someone copying the smart kids homework and making up random bullshit to call it their own.

Custom ROMs are great though.

aleph ,
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If they had Samsung’s hardware reliability and breadth of customization, they’d be perfect.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

After a long line of Samsung phones, I decided to try a pixel at my last change, so got the 6. I’ve been really happy with it. Performance is good, camera and camera software are great, features are nice. The Samsungs were getting pretty bloated in comparison.

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