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Card Emulator/Alternative NFC payment options.

I have degoogled but I find myself missing Google Wallet/Pay despite it being the worst spyware there is. I would like to have both my bus pass and card available on my phone in case I ever get stranded with out either. I’ve found this app but when trying to emulate a MiFare Classic, it emulated a MiFare Plus and when attempting to emulate a Visa or MasterCard, it just errors out and says to please insert the card.

I presume I need some sort of sniffer hardware like a Proxmark3 to get as much data off the cards as possible, though I’m not really sure how to get the data from there to an emulator on my phone with the intention of out and about.

Please only reply with genuine answers. Any shit about ToS or poor security etc. will be ignored.

archwizard ,

You’re not gonna have much luck. If you’re able to clone these kind of cards, its an honest security vulnerability and should be reported.

As an alternative, I’ve seen people suggest using a smartwatch, like the Garmin ones, that have a “wallet”.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Its in progress but currently there are none that Im aware of. This obviously requires a high level of security and trust from the banks and CCs. And they arent going to give the time of day to anyone whos not a trillion dollar company.

knobbysideup ,
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I got tired of gpay breaking every week or so on crdroid. I just got a card that works with my Garmin watch and pay with that now. No more fighting the nonsense.

baggins ,

You aren’t going to be able to get any crypto keys out of an EMV card. They are actually secure. GPay works by registering a separate virtual card through an API.

catloaf ,

How is Google wallet the worst spyware? I’m not aware of anything particularly nefarious it’s doing

sunzu2 ,

It is making good money

HurlingDurling ,
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The thing is if you degoogled for privacy, then I would say stop paying with any and all card as these are heavily tracked by anybody and everybody. Instead, opt for paying cash

StarlightDust OP ,

This is what the last sentence in my post was about; I shouldn’t have to include it. Please try to refrain from doing it in future as it perpetuates the toxicity that Reddit had (and still has) a reputation for. Its fine to pass over a post if you don’t know the answer. It is also fine to pass over a post if you would never find an answer useful.

That being said, since COVID lockdowns were lifted, a hell of a lot of places have become card only, making it necessary to carry one. Some people may have the privileges to be able to use cash whenever they want, but not everyone can. There are places where disability benefits disallow you from taking out the money you receive as cash; I think this is some sort of war on drugs thing. Another reason is that women’s clothing is quite infamously lacking pockets.

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