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MyOpinion ,

Housing affordability is totally out of wack. You can’t base pay on that.

thurstylark ,

Why not? It’s a thing that factors into cost of living.

What’s the alternative? Just wait until economists have declared the housing market is at some baseline of normalcy before determining pay? Do you really fail to see how rediculous that would be?

cheers_queers ,

housing is a core part of being a functional human. get your head out of your ass

FlashMobOfOne , (edited )
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Headlines like this are a good reminder of my prime directive: Don’t donate money to political parties. Both Harris and Trump have billionaires in their corner and they don’t need your money.

Instead, donate to your friends’ mutual aid requests or invest it in your own stocks and investments. These candidates aren’t going to do anything meaningful to change your station in life, but they will make a trillion dollars appear out of thin air overnight to avoid a major drop in the stock market and your $10-$20 could mean the difference between skipping a day of food and eating for someone you know and love.

solsangraal ,

they will make a trillion dollars appear out of thin air overnight

that’s the federal reserve, which does what it wants and doesn’t answer to anyone, including the president

FlashMobOfOne ,
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Thank you for adding information to my post. Have a nice evening.

massive_bereavement ,

NO KINGS, NO GODS, ONLY FEDS.

callouscomic ,

Average cop starting pay is significantly more than teachers. Which one requires the education? Which one contributes more to society?

Yawweee877h444 ,

Cops should be paid a lot, but the danger should be part of the job and risk. I’m thinking specifically of those Uvalde cowards who did nothing and let kids get killed. Their job should be the risk, to take the bullets, so as to save and help the innocent. That’s the risk they should take, and get paid well specifically for that.

Many of our cops are overweight lazy traffic cops who give poor people speeding tickets who are late for their shitty job they can’t afford to be late to. Or parking wrong, or whatever.

Teachers deserve a lot more too, way more for different reasons obviously. Unless they’re forcing some religious nonsense poison into the minds of growing kids, fuck that.

mozz ,
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Exactly

Underpaying cops is what leads to Uvalde. Have high standards, throw the fuckin book at cops who abuse their power, and pay the rest of them properly. Cops, teachers, construction, bus drivers, all the people who make things operate should get paid a fuckin living wage, and the jobs that are skilled in addition (I.e. most of those) should be able to demand a higher wage and limit the people who’re allowed to do it to the people who can do it properly.

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

all the people who make things operate should get paid a fuckin living wage

Agreed. Unfortunately, it’s just not going to happen in America. This entire country is founded on the principle of extracting as much value from labor as possible without compensating them fairly.

mozz ,
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The best place to live I have ever been aware of in history was the US during the post-labor-movement environment of the 1940s through 1970s (for the white people). We just gotta have a second one of those that’s capable to demand that again, and extend it to all races.

Nothing’s inherently wrong with the US governmental system; the economic system just tends to get out of whack (and also distort the government along with everything else) if there isn’t a strong labor movement keeping it the fuck in check.

ColeSloth ,

My firefighter/emt job I’m at 54 hours a week starts at $41k a year. That’s after getting all the certs and all the ongoing training and emt refresher classes etc. Most of us work two jobs.

someguy3 ,

Everyone’s pay.

mozz ,
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I am somewhat shocked that teachers could start affording houses if you doubled their pay. Maybe like a house in a shitty neighborhood in conjunction with a partner… maybe. I don’t really know but if I had to guess I would say it’s like $40k income for teachers and $150k family income to afford a house.

Irremarkable ,
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This varies heavily state to state and even district to district, but generally after you've been teaching for a while, you'll be making ok money. The issue is how low starting pay is and how long it takes to get to that point, often 10+ years. 10+ years where you're scraping to get by and don't really have the ability to set any money aside.

mozz ,
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Yeah makes sense. Good thing that this critical role for our society is done by people who basically have to live in their cars for a few years. No way that could go wrong.

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