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gaael , to android in Sunbird / ‘Nothing Chats’ is Not Secure.

When your privacy performance is not even good enough for Google, it’s time to ask yourself some questions.

stealthnerd ,

They pulled it. Google didn’t.

gaael ,

And I commented without reading the article, my bad. Thanks for the correction :)

ElPussyKangaroo , to android in Sunbird / ‘Nothing Chats’ is Not Secure.

I love how Beeper got a pass but the moment a big name steps in, all hell breaks loose. 😑

loki , (edited )

maybe because Beeper devs were upfront about it and their bridges are opensource and self-hostable?

ElPussyKangaroo ,

Ah, I see… I didn’t know Nothing hadn’t opened up about what they were hosting on…

Is Sunbird fairly new?

miss_brainfart , to android in Sunbird / ‘Nothing Chats’ is Not Secure.
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Well that was short-lived, but not unexpected

csfirecracker ,

I knew it wasn’t going far when I heard the service was being run by having a farm of mac servers acting as the bridge and that you needed to give over your apple credentials to use it.

miss_brainfart ,
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Why even do this in the first place, when Matrix Bridges have been a thing for ages now?

(Note: I don’t like Matrix Bridges either, they’re problematic in their own right)

MarsRT ,

pretty sure sunbird claimed they were able to get thousands of apple IDs to be able to work on one mac, which is something matrix bridge based iMessage solutions like Beeper don’t do

whether they’re actually being truthful about that, i would personally doubt it

miss_brainfart ,
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which is something matrix bridge based iMessage solutions like Beeper don’t do

Which is precisely what makes Matrix the better option for this, albeit still not great

MarsRT ,

for a mass market solution though, that’s not scalable at all, even if you try to get the cheapest, used macs possible so I can see why sunbird would claim to do this

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