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db2 , to technology in Reddit beats lawsuit by WallStreetBets founder

What an awful article that is.

But yeah, dude had no standing on which to bring suit. That doesn’t mean reddit won anything, it means the guy behind WSB is a douche which everyone already knew.

bezerker03 , to world in Sarah Silverman sues Meta, OpenAI for copyright infringement

I mean if I watch something and profit off it or even make my own business that’s not anything you can sue for.

Dunno why these folks think they can sue a model trainer.

FlyingSquid ,
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She claims it regurgitated passages from her book word-for-word. If she has proof of this, it sounds like infringement to me.

Wicker ,

Because it’s their work being used algorithmically to support someone else’s.

Regardless of how you feel about AI, the training models have to exclude copyrighted works to not have this happen, because otherwise it is absolutely true that that AI keeps record of everything fed into it, and if you dont have the rights to what was fed into it, then there’s a copyright issue. Because even if it’s being reworked and influenced by other works, it is still using other people’s stuff to do it. It is, in many ways, an overgrown randomization & automation tool.

The problem is that people dont see AI’s as a tool that companies are using, they see it almost like a person learning. It’s not like a person learning, and cant be treated the same as say, a consumer reading the book referenced (in this example) for enjoyment.

kurrybrox ,

If I went to an acting class to be trained to act like robert de niro and they used multiple facets of his work over the years to train me, is it infringement? If I go to an art class to learn how to paint like Picasso, and they use his work as reference, is that infringement? In these examples I'm the AI and the class is essentially the trainer. I get that the company is setting up the AI to be a product, but in these examples, I too would be setting myself to be a product if I use my new skills to profit.

All of the litigation isn't necessarily wrong, so far, but AI is happening much too quickly for it to matter. And what's more human, the thing the companies creating new AI are going for, than learning from our arts, languages, culture, etc.?

MartianSands ,

it is absolutely true that that AI keeps record of everything fed into it

No it isn’t.

A properly trained deep learning system will ultimately far smaller than all of the data it’s been trained on. It’s simply impossible for it to have retained a record of very much of it at all.

When everything is working correctly it shouldn’t have any of the actual text stored at all. Certainly every single piece of training data will have left some impression on the model, but that’s a very long way from actually storing the training data. The model consists of statistical relationships, not a copy-paste of the inputs.

Strictly speaking there is something resembling text in the model, but it’s made up of the smallest possible units of language (unless there’s been overfitting, in which case the training has gone wrong and there probably would be a case to answer).

The model builds sentances from a list of “phrases” which don’t even need to line up with word boundaries. Things like “is a” might be treated as a “word”, as might “ing”, if the model finds that to be a useful snippet.

fruitywelsh , to technology in US judge rules Microsoft deal to buy Activision can go forward

I hope Linux gaming can keep growing at a fast pace to combat the inevitable clash.

Charliechonch , to world in India deals blow to online gaming industry with 28% tax
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But where else are they supposed to spend all that hard-earned money from scamming senior citizens

xuxebiko ,

These days? Buying tomatoes which have become super-expensive in India (prices are almost 10x the usual). Fuel (petrol, diesel, and cooking gas) are also very expensive. India is facing runaway inflation coupled with high unemployment.

startlefrenzy ,

I hope you know the small population of people doing this are considered scum by the rest of India and even if you meant it as a joke it sucks to categorize a country filled with many kinds of people as scammers.

Bruhmoment ,

These scammer jokes are getting old how about you be more creative with your racism?

Charliechonch ,
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To be fair I would say worse things about prosperity gospel preachers

eyy , to worldnews in EU looks to take lead in metaverse world, avoid Big Tech dominance

“Metaverse”? isn’t that already dead lol

worfamerryman , to technology in US judge rules Microsoft deal to buy Activision can go forward

How long until mastercheif armor is in Diablo 4 and Wow?

Can’t wait to get the warthog mount.

weew , to technology in US judge rules Microsoft deal to buy Activision can go forward

on one hand, I hate mega corporations getting bigger and bigger until they devour everything.

On the other hand, I hate what Blizzard has become and being bought out by Microsoft is probably the best chance at improvement.

worfamerryman ,

My first thought was that if online only Diablo 4 exists, then I can play it. But who am I to get my hopes up?

demonsword , to world in India deals blow to online gaming industry with 28% tax
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India deals blow to online gaming gambling industry with 28% tax

luthis , to world in Hong Kong plans widespread ban of Japanese sea products

Sigh. People need to educate themselves on radiation. Its not overly complex and it’s actually really interesting. There’s no threat here, bananas are more dangerous.

NeoAgostosTheos , to world in India deals blow to online gaming industry with 28% tax

Did not expect India to be the one to push back on the predatory behavior of micro transactions. Having lived in India for a long time, I’m not sure how much of it is greed but still a positive outcome I guess!

xuxebiko ,

Modi is least bothered by financially predatory behaviour, his govt is desperately trying to raise funds.

TurboDiesel ,
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From what I read, the tax is on online gaming as in gambling, apps, not gacha-style microtransactions. Still a good thing though.

Danatronic ,

What’s the difference?

NeoAgostosTheos ,

I think the comment implies it might not be for traditional gaming but rather mainstream gambling and apps like candy crush? Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

HappyMeatbag , to technology in US judge rules Microsoft deal to buy Activision can go forward
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I am both disappointed and unsurprised.

Candelestine , to world in India deals blow to online gaming industry with 28% tax

Ooh. I like that. We should do that too. Just the microtransaction-based ones, not all online games. Decent subscription-based games should be exempt.

And I say that as someone that wishes he could be a Supercell fan. Used to be a huge one.

ashiwz ,

To be clear, this ruling seems to be online gaming as in gambling, not video games

Candelestine ,

Ah, well, that’s not bad either. Frankly they should just expand it though. It’s not like gatcha games aren’t a sort of gambling enterprise.

Beliriel ,

This is frankly fantastic news. You just need to classify gacha as gambling and you’re done. This is probably way easier than to legally define what a gacha game is.

jmp242 , to worldnews in EU looks to take lead in metaverse world, avoid Big Tech dominance

I just watched folding ideas video essay about the metaverse (focused on one company, but I think many of the points would hold up for any metaverse thing)… And I think there’s an important point - the metaverse is (so far) ill defined, but the “prototypes” I’ve seen are basically 3d chat rooms (that existed in the 90s) and sort of Second Life style services. Which, just… only appeal to a very small group of people apparently. VR tech still isn’t there, and I’m starting to think it might be awhile (we must be on v3 of a big launch by now, right?).

dan80 , to worldnews in EU looks to take lead in metaverse world, avoid Big Tech dominance

Lost opportunity to invest in the Fediverse instead. Open a mastodon account for all European institutions, maybe ask the Countries to do the same for their entities. Mastodon was created in Europe, by the way. Also it’s open source, and this is a huge benefit over Meta/Twitter.

Ooops ,
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Open a mastodon account for all European institutions

social.network.europa.eu/about cough

CorruptBuddha ,

🙌

exapsy , to technology in US judge rules Microsoft deal to buy Activision can go forward
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nice. now big corporations buy big corporations who own small companies. and the loop opens for others too now (as this is how it works in judge system - refer to previous judgement - take credibility and win the case). very nice.

because what did I want more than even more monopoly and even more illusion of choice.

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