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Magnets

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I am angleless…

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Twink , to memes in How though?
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Magic. Don’t let mage apologists gaslight you.

tbagmobile , to memes in Team Xavier

He is the chosen one

Tiuku , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

Now I’m interested in seeing that Win11 $upported CPU list. Anyone got the full link?

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  • merthyr1831 ,

    Most of the unsupported CPUs are based on their TPM support. Windows can boot on much older CPUs if you bypass TPM.

    That being said, Windows already chugs on current gen hardware depending on your usecase so I’m not gonna recommend you try it lmao.

    Sarsoar ,

    Yea I have a 2011v3 haswell e proc that isnt supported but the mobo has a tpm slot so I got a 7 dollar tpm2.0 module on ebay and was able to install win11 last year. Its fine for basic gaming.

    FiskFisk33 , to memes in This is the way

    no, fuck murder.

    Don’t get me wrong, fuck poachers, but murder is never the solution, it just breeds escalated violence.

    ramenshaman ,

    Endangered-animal lives are much more precious to me than humans-who-are-willing-to-murder-endangered-animals lives, so I disagree.

    Stumblinbear ,
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    What a great way to gun down any random civilian without proof of any wrongdoing. Just say they were poaching!

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    Yeah that’s not how it works. Random citizens don’t traipse around the bush hunting for rhinos and elephants and such.

    FiskFisk33 ,

    I am more alluding to the risk of collateral

    pm_boobs_send_nudes ,

    Actually they tried the normal way, where they didn’t shoot and asked the poachers to surrender / tried to arrest them. But the rangers would get shot and the animals would continue to get poached.

    Seeing this as a problem, a new executive order / law was passed allowing shoot at sight orders at national parks / protected zones.

    Poaching has reduced, the number of rangers getting shot has reduced. The number of poachers getting shot has reduced (they don’t wanna fuck around anymore).

    Overall it has increased peace.

    psud ,

    It’s not murder, it’s legal punishment. The poachers use gun violence against rangers, so it’s a reasonable escalation.

    PosadistInevitablity ,
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    It clearly says “on sight”

    You don’t want to wait for them to shoot first, you just want to murder them.

    No society on earth considers shooting on sight to be legal punishment

    STUPIDVIPGUY ,

    Murder is bad, but humans are the problem. And humans being stupid chaotic creatures, it often devolves in to dirty things like killing. You can say all you want about right and wrong but this is a messy situation and this is the solution they have been forced in to using, after trying the peaceful method for years

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    That’s a terrible and quite frankly untrue take

    TheBurlapBandit , to memes in Team Xavier

    You can’t spell heroine without heroin

    kn33 , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

    I like Linux a lot, but saying you can’t understand why someone would run Windows on a server just shows a lack of knowledge. Linux is great in a lot of server applications in the application realm. However, it doesn’t get close to the power of Active Directory and Group Policy for Windows device management. Besides that, a lot of people are more comfortable with a UI for managing DHCP, DNA, etc in a SMB environment. Even if they prefer a command line for those tools PowerShell allows those people to coexist with those that prefer a GUI. Under certain circumstances, (mainly ones where a business is forgoing AD for AAD), Linux can be the right choice. Pretending that there’s no place for Windows Server, though, is asinine.

    SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    Have you used windows before? It’s flaming garbage. Been using various oses for decades and I still rediscover how shitty windows is on the regular.

    IAm_A_Complete_Idiot ,

    Yeah, and Linux still doesn’t have a good answer to AD for managing suites of end user machines. Linux has a lot going for it - but windows isn’t strictly inferior or anything.

    Honestly, the entire AD suite with auth and everything else built in is genuinely a good product. And if what you want is supported by Microsoft, their other services are decent as well.

    twei ,

    freeipa is pretty good, although i agree that it’s easier to just use AD

    superkret ,

    Every time someone mentions that Linux has no alternative to AD, someone mentions an alternative.
    But somehow it’s a different one that’s mentioned every time.

    twei ,

    Lmao that’s not just for AD

    I only know OpenLDAP and FreeIPA, if there are any other alternatives you got please mention them

    CaptainAniki ,

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    But if the windows fanboy doesn’t know about it, it’s not real. Or if it is, it’s not good! /s

    kn33 ,

    Notice how you’re ignoring the machine management and selectively choosing to focus on the user management. User management might be fine with Linux, but machine management can’t compete with GPOs, especially for managing Windows clients, which is what businesses are using for workstations whether we like it or not.

    Zeth0s , (edited )

    The main problem are companies forcing windows servers and technologies when they are not the good ones for the task.

    If one needs to set up desktops for accounting, windows is fine. But I saw companies setting shared NFS drives used by Linux severs on windows machines! Not joking!

    I know companies that even deploy kubernetes clusters on windows servers!

    Just because finding cheap windows engineers is easy, everyone has had an experience on windows to put on a cv. Than some of that cheap labor go up the hierarchy as head of a random infrastructure team because all good sys engineers moved to manage linux servers after some time, he recruits people like-minded, and in few years you ends up with a team refusing to do the right thing because “we know windows and windows can do the same as Linux and Microsoft is good for governance and Linux bad”. Execs don’t understand the difference and force architecture to go along because they don’t believe it’s worthy to rebuild a team, we are anyway using windows for accounting and execs laptops, it can’t be that bad! Even accenture and mckinsey consultants us it! And they told us that wls2 is the holy grail

    Corporate IT is the peak of suboptimal tools for the job because politics and money

    Swarfega ,

    This community is very much a “Windows bad” community. I personally find that annoying as I use Windows and Linux. Both have their pros and cons. Windows though is seen here as the shitest OS out there which far from the truth.

    PowerShell is amazing and I install it on my Linux desktop.

    Mr_Dr_Oink ,

    We use both. Its not my department but i know the server guys are using windows for some servers and linux for others and the decision is normally made based on which is going to be best for the specific needs of the function of that server.

    Pretending one is outright better than the other is childish. Just use whats best at the time.

    DessertStorms , to memes in This is the way
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    Fuck poachers, don't get me wrong, but fucking hell, I wish people had the same kind of energy when it came to billionaires, who are literally responsible for the deaths of millions of humans (by virtue of hoarding so many resources as well as creating and maintaining a system that relies on exploitation and suffering to benefit them and only them).

    If only society cared about oppressed and marginalised people as much as it does about cute animals.

    Duamerthrax , (edited )

    Society doesn’t care about cute or endangered animals. The rangers represent a minority.

    DessertStorms ,
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    Society doesn’t care about cure or endangered animals

    That's bullshit.
    I'd agree that not enough people care, but significantly more people care about cute endangered animals than they do marginalised and oppressed human beings.

    It doesn't take a study to see the difference in attitudes and engagement (though studies have been done, feel free to invest your own time looking them up).

    The fact that you've responded to me to focus on the animals but not on the people my comment is actually about is a perfect illustration of my point.

    Duamerthrax ,

    The fact that you’ve responded to me to focus on the animals but not on the people my comment is actually about is a perfect illustration of my point.

    That’s all a narrative you created in your head. Besides, many of the same solutions that would protect endangered species would also protect marginalized people. You’re trying to make this into a Trolley Dilemmas for some reason. Who do you think are the ones buying dick powder made form Rhino horns?

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    Your attitude is the only real reason for any gun control in America.

    DessertStorms ,
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    Yes - the rich and powerful don't want those they oppress and exploit to rise up against them.

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    Wow, watch me get down voted by all the redditors flooding the site. Wish they would take their bootlicking back where they came from if they enjoy the oppression so much

    HikingVet ,

    What the fuck are you on about?

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    If you really don’t know, then you probably can’t understand. If you’re being ironic, you missed and hit moronic.

    HikingVet ,

    Well it’s hard to grasp someone’s point when they don’t actually articulate it.

    explodicle ,

    His down votes must be because of redditors, so he doesn’t even CARE what they think! 😭

    c0mbatbag3l ,
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    Bro, your opinion is like the majority of reddit are you high?

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    What opinion? The only reason any piece of gun legislation has ever passed is to keep minorities and poors from arming themselves against oppression. That’s fact. Reddit is a bootlicking hellscape of do nothing liberals who want dasy government and mommy corporate to keep them safe and busy.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    My guy, it’s okay if you get downvoted here. This instance blocks brigading trolls so they’re likely legit.

    I’ve been downvoted here on like two comments so far and I really, really don’t care. You can manifest the same attitude within.

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    Oh I’m not mad, just saw the instant emotional response to a simple statement of fact and it felt like I was back in the centrist circle jerk again.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    I think it’s safe to just call that the human condition at this point

    TopShelfVanilla ,

    Yeah it’s whatever. I’m not here looking for friends, especially not in a meme community.

    toxicbubble ,

    do you eat animals?

    CurlyMoustache ,
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    Only rhino burgers or long cooked stews made from endangered animals

    STUPIDVIPGUY ,

    shark fin stew, mmm one of my favorites!

    radau ,

    Great rebuttal lmao

    pivot_root ,

    Incredible. Even PITA migrated during the great Reddit exodus.

    nostradiel ,
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    My man! (y)

    M68040 , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW
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    Been meaning to transition to a distro with a focus on being pretty low maintainance yet not too top heavy, leaving Windows to a VM on my Proxmox server. Haven’t gotten around to it yet, since I’d need to get the server a dedicated graphics card.

    Could just use WINE, I suppose, but I’m assuming it’s still as rough as it was last time I messed with it twelve years ago.

    Sethayy ,

    Yep, absolutely nothing has changed in the past 12 years.

    Valve joined the scene but they just cracked a beer with the devs and are gonna wait their own 12

    silent_water ,
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    more stuff just works, if it doesn’t, you might be able to fix it but it’s rough.

    knobpolisher , to memes in This is the way

    Reverse poacher rhino bbq birthing

    MJBrune , (edited ) to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

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    db2 ,

    Would you like some dressing with your word salad? Nothing you said actually makes sense or reflects reality.

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    db2 ,

    Do you not understand the concept of negative numbers? That minus in front of the 6 means you’re getting the opposite of upvotes.

    ugo ,

    You’ll probably want to try to make your disinformation more believable in the future

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    thesmokingman ,

    You’ve moved the goalposts. CPU is one thing that is objectively wrong. My older gen i7 doesn’t work with Win11 and has no problem with all the distros I’ve thrown at it.

    Nvidia GPU is totally different from CPU. I think most reasonable Linux folks will agree that Nvidia drivers can be problematic and that is a weak point.

    sab ,

    Readable would be a start. I'm still not entirely sure what it is I'm being misinformed about.

    Mambert , (edited )

    I’ve always been able to read that my kernel is included in an update.

    Are you updating throught he command line or some visual front?

    And 1200 packages? I run arch (btw) and only get ~250 a week.

    OsrsNeedsF2P OP ,

    Since nobody gave you an actual response yet, you can see Linux-compatible hardware here: linux-hardware.org

    Note: The list is much larger than Windows, for everything from CPUs to peripherals

    Auster ,

    Looking for a more stable distro could be a good idea. Some distros are pretty much only PoC, or too niche to have a good support, or the beta channel of another, better supported distro.

    Auster ,

    Besides, Windows can be very laggy even on supported hardware.

    Trebach ,

    I've yet to run into a CPU that doesn’t work with 11
    Every AMD processor from the Ryzen 1000-series and older. I'm not sure where the line is with Intel processors, but requiring TPM excludes a lot of otherwise useful hardware.

    ferralcat ,

    I’ve always found the Tpm complaints a little suspicious. The same people who go on and on about how much they worry about security and privacy and how MS doesn’t care, suddenly just don’t give a shit in these cases. I assume they mostly just want to shit on stuff.

    It’s a good to push to make it standard and hardware manufacturers wont without a good old shove.

    Zatujit ,

    I complain about TPM because it made my system unable to boot without desactivating it, i don’t really care about TPM but the implementation seems disastrous

    worfamerryman , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

    Linux is just all around snappier for me than windows is. I never have to wait, but on windows there are always delays opening windows and for some reason it will keep trying to generate thumbnails.

    I really hate using windows. I’m a worse worker because of it. I’m just waiting for the m3 Macs to switch.

    Sadly, my work stuff does not work on Linux. So I have a second computer for most of my work.

    aski3252 ,

    Yeah, this is what I don’t understand about windows. I get that as an IT professional, I don’t have a much of patience for sluggish system and that average users might not care that much about system responsiveness, but from my anecdotal experience, it has started to bug the average user too.

    Even on a high-end device, windows just doesn’t feel smooth at all. And for some reason, it seems to get worse with every major release. How can you be a major industry leader, have users with more and more performative hardware, but your software seems to perform worse and worse?

    Zatujit ,

    Uh that may only be animation time you can remove that (i think). Or you have outdated hardware

    ConsciousLochNess , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW
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    The new CPU requirements for Windows 11 are why I wiped it and am now on Linux Mint. No dual-booting.

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