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thesanewriter , to technology in GMail is Breaking Email
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Yeah, I think this is done to provide the illusion of choice. The rate limits are high enough to allow personal emails through, but for any mass emails or corporate emails this forces you to use Google. Unfortunately a standard corporate strategy, it’s why corporate office suites are so generic and tend to be from one of the big companies.

African_Grey , to technology in GMail is Breaking Email
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Leave the google ecosystem. Embrace alternatives like Proton.

CrystalEYE , to technology in GMail is Breaking Email
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@Jo Oh god, that reads horribly like this article about Google killing XMPP that spread around last week: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

elgordio , to technology in GMail is Breaking Email

In my experience Office 365 is even harder to deliver to. The email envelope can be in perfect shape and sent via sendgrid (their recommended partner) and it will still silently drop mails for no obvious reason and if it does deign to deliver them it will often mark them junk.

I’m only sending low volume transactional emails. The amount of time I have to spend tweaking the email content just to persuade Microsoft to deliver the mail is absurd.

1993_toyota_camry ,
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In my experience Office 365 is even harder to deliver to.

Yep, this is my experience as well.

I've had some issues with google, but at least they tend to put them in Junk, or tell me the messages are being rejected.

Microsoft will give me a 250 message, and then route the message to /dev/null.

That's contrary to the RFCs, and really annoying. Since it doesn't end up in Junk, the receiver can't say 'not junk', and since it doesn't bounce, the sender thinks it has been sent.

I'm signed up for Microsofts junk mail reporting, and when this happens the UI shows no issues with my ip, and doesn't admit to any e-mail filtering. The only way I can detect it is by sending messages to my test accounts, or waiting for users to yell.

Fwiw, anyone else who runs in to this scenario, expect your first support ticket with microsoft to be rejected. Keep responding to it. On the second or third try they might end up removing the silent ban.

anlumo , to technology in GMail is Breaking Email

Email is a relict of a bygone era and needs to die. It's not designed for the modern Internet, and no patching like DKIM and DMARC can fix that.

wahming ,

Do share the alternative with us, that's universally supported and not owned by a corporation.

anlumo ,

Already responded to someone else asking here.

Master ,
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So the article is about unwarranted 12 hour delays and your solution is to use a federated platform where delays are built into the system between server syncs? The fact that people cant see your other post yet because their local servers have not synced your post to this thread should be the first sign that this might not be a good solution to this email problem...

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