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hperrin , to mildlyinfuriating in Started looking into ente to replace Google Photos and Gmail marked them as spam

It’s more likely that Ente is:

  • Not jumping through one of the myriad hoops Gmail has put up to not be marked spam/dangerous.
  • Sending email from an IP address that has been included in a blacklist for whatever reason.
  • Or actually is sending malicious emails.
MonkderZweite ,

All those hoops with their market share make it poisonous to the whole E-Mail space, same as Outlook. And despite that, 90% of spam i receive is from a random Gmail adress still. I strongly recommend ditching Gmail for a paid provider, better for your privacy too.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For the few things I can’t change, gmail is filtering 99% of the actual spam. Only got a handful of emails that actually went through the filter.

MonkderZweite ,

My point is, despite the hoops to not be marked as spam from gmail, there’s a lot of gmail spammers around.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Oh okay. Didnt got that at first.

roadkill , to mildlyinfuriating in Started looking into ente to replace Google Photos and Gmail marked them as spam

I doubt it's because it's a competing service and it's more likely because it's a .io TLD... which is notorious for being used by phishers, spammers, and scammers unfortunately.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/io-domain-spam-emails-out-of-control/6206daee-e035-4986-8d27-4c7d248a3350

hddsx ,

I have sent an email to my gmail from an io domain with no issue… it took a lot of server side configuration though.

Armand1 ,

Not so sure about that, a quick search through my emails reveals emails from mend.io and codesandbox.io that had no trouble getting to me.

That said, I have found that even some sites that have .io don’t have it in their emails, they use a slightly different domain.

So maybe some sites have been whitelisted or it’s one of many heuristics Google uses.

psivchaz , to mildlyinfuriating in Started looking into ente to replace Google Photos and Gmail marked them as spam

The truly wild thing about subscription pricing to me is how viscerally I’m against it. I’m not shitting on this business model, I think it makes perfect sense and is probably the only logical way to run a business like this. I’m just saying that everything in our lives is trying so hard to turn everything into a recurring fee that my first reaction to every recurring fee is pure hatred.

Alright, so the amount of data I’d need for pictures is probably the 500GB tier, so $9.99/mo. My first thought is that’s way too expensive, my second thought is that I’m not doing another subscription. My subscription-trauma addled brain will happily justify buying a little server, and a 1TB hard drive, and spending hours configuring them. By the time I’m done, I’ll have spent the equivalent of at least 3 years of the cost of this service, plus tons of my free time, and it will never work exactly right because there’s always going to need to be updates, and sometimes those will break something, and I’ll need to fix it myself.

Anyway, it looks cool though.

Tangent5280 ,

Cloud storage is something I’m okay paying for. In general, if I want near 100 percent uptime, I’m ok paying for it, because the alternative is making sure it works by myself, and I have much more important shit to do.

deweydecibel , (edited )

I’m ok with subscription cloud storage provided it’s easy to move everything off of it to somewhere else and they don’t make me jump through ridiculous hopes to access it.

I was paying for Google drive until they killed the Back Up and Sync desktop app. The original app let you sync any individual file in any directory, and you could pick and choose how each was synced.

Then they killed that and replaced it with a desktop app they have now that creates a Google partition of sorts that the user can’t enter, shoves all your files in it, and forces you to use the app to manage what files are currently sitting on your own computer.

You can still do the individual syncing I think but you can’t pick and choose which files are synced and which stay on the cloud. You have to keep it all downloaded and synced or none.

Tangent5280 ,

Makes sense. Are there any alternatives which lets you pick and choose which objects to sync on the file level? I didn’t really know that was an option except for finangling rsync with cron jobs or something.

XTornado , (edited )

I got all the rest and I see your issue with wanting to sync only individual files. But I didn’t quite get what you mean with this: “…that the user can’t enter”. You can enter and copy/move/edit files… I cannot understand what you meant with that.

Regarding the sync thing, I am not as annoyed by it as much as you seem, and my use case probably was different, but in case it helps somebody what I opted to was to use it as a disk and use tools that work with disks, so in my case although other tools could be used I use FreeFileSync to copy files from the Drive to a local drive and viceversa. Mostly for backup purposes.

I would be tempted to say in some cases it is even better as in the past you needed to to use their APIs or use their tool to setup those specific sync options and now I can use any tool that works with copying/using normal files.

That said… for other environments like a server or similar, then you are back to RClone and API auths or similar to do actions on your drive.

You have to keep it all downloaded and synced or none.

This is me just nitpicking, but you can flag folders/files to be available offline and it will keep a local copy always, but it will be in their drive thingy. So you can access it even when offline but it’s not copied outside their virtual disk. It’s just a right click menu option.

Eggyhead , (edited )
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One of my biggest concerns with subscriptions has to do with death. It feels gross to imagine companies just entitling themselves to my bank account after I’m gone, providing no value to anything, until someone comes along and cancels everything. Feels like one last free cash grab that could go on for years. I imagine board members congratulating each other for legally looting a dead man’s corpse.

serpineslair ,

That’s freaky. Never thought of that.

XTornado ,

I mean… it’s not great but unless you don’t have family or they are not aware of those accounts that will not last years.

Eggyhead ,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

You’re probably right, but we both know companies would go on for years if nothing intervenes. Then blame it on the dead man when there is no money left.

BassTurd ,

One of the reasons that I use Google photos is for the automatic backup of pictures I take. I’m working towards self hosting, and I haven’t got to this one yet, but that service is pretty nice. Also, when I’m traveling, I’ll take a handful pictures side by side, and Google will stitch a panorama for me. I spend time snowboarding in the mountains and hiking in tropical areas, and that’s the best way to capture a landscape that I’ve used.

falkerie71 ,
@falkerie71@sh.itjust.works avatar

GCam and photospheres! I’m so mad they dropped photospheres on the Pixel 8 line, it’s so good for travel landscapes.

psivchaz ,

I use Photoprism. It is sufficient, amazing even for what it is, but there’s a definite curve to getting it set up properly and there’s some babysitting involved to make sure everything keeps working.

BassTurd ,

I will have to look into that as an option. Always open to alternatives.

aStonedSanta ,
Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just saying that everything in our lives is trying so hard to turn everything into a recurring fee that my first reaction to every recurring fee is pure hatred.

But OTOH, it has ~always been that everything semi-worthwhile in our loves has been a recurring cost.

Food, sex, children, relationships, even things luxury/benign such as cars which are often mistaken for a one-time payment but really are not.

SquishyPandaDev , to mildlyinfuriating in Started looking into ente to replace Google Photos and Gmail marked them as spam
@SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net avatar

I wouldn’t read too much in to it. I have recently received false positives on GoG emails. I suspect Google would much rather have a whole bunch of false positives than one missed positive. Bad PR and such.

If you haven’t already just report it as not spam

scrubbles , to mildlyinfuriating in Started looking into ente to replace Google Photos and Gmail marked them as spam
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

How do you like it? I’d be interested in leaving photos but it looks like it’s be a pain to set everything up. Do they have a good import system?

Tangent5280 ,

I hear good things about them. The core team seems solid as far as engineering experience goes, and as long as they don’t sell out or get acquired they’re a pretty viable replacement.

AnActOfCreation OP ,
@AnActOfCreation@programming.dev avatar

I’ve only been using it since… well… since I posted this. But so far the experience is great! They have an easy guide for migrating from Google Photos (basically they can import a Takeout export directly).

ente.io/faq/migration/from-google-photos/

I’ve got it installed on my phone with automatic backups enabled. It had no issues with duplicates from both Takeout and the existing photos on my phone. (I even did the upload twice due to running out of space the first time, and there were no dupes). The app has a pretty similar design to Google Photos, so it feels familiar. It also supports Google’s version of “live photos”.

You can create links to share albums or individual photos, and you can also add people to your plan.

I enabled the local machine learning analysis and, while it’s not perfect, it does make for a pretty nice searching experience.

P.S. I promise this is not an ad! I’m running out of Google storage and figured this was as good a time as any to de-Google my photos. Ente came up as a frequent cloud solution. If you’re looking for self-hosted, Immich is far and away the most popular.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

oh awesome, if it can do a takeout export than that’s the winner!

TheBlue22 , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀

That ain’t Mozzarella

affiliate , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀

mozartrella

Viking_Hippie , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀
ekZepp , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀
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Damage ,

suspiciously stringy for Parmigiano, too.

bitwaba ,

It’s shredded low moisture mozzarella used for a typical pizza.

That would be some terrible looking parmesan.

ininewcrow , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Kinda cheesy

MataVatnik , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

I will never not laugh at this meme

WarmSoda , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀

Eddie Vedder?

erie09 ,

Cher?

Caboose12000 , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀

my dumb ass really went “what is cinderart?”

Imgonnatrythis ,

So glad you asked,

cinderart.com/Bio/bio.html

NoneYa , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀

Cinderart

MeatsOfRage ,
Steveanonymous , to lemmyshitpost in Now we just need one for Cheddar 🧀
@Steveanonymous@lemmy.world avatar

Che Guevara and shredder from tmnt

gibmiser ,

Damn you, I had Che also but couldn’t come up with the second half. Nice combo.

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