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TropicalDingdong , 1 month ago to technology in Seawater, caffeine, cans: MIT has the recipe for on-demand hydrogen. Yeah sure ok dot gif If the MIT marketing department was a fuel cell, we’d have the energy crisis solved.
Yeah sure ok dot gif
If the MIT marketing department was a fuel cell, we’d have the energy crisis solved.
conciselyverbose , 1 month ago MIT just explores shit. You can’t blame them for naive press jumping way ahead of what their papers say.
MIT just explores shit.
You can’t blame them for naive press jumping way ahead of what their papers say.
TropicalDingdong , 1 month ago MIT and there marketing and promotion of their research is itself an established meme. No body hypes shit harder than MIT. They also do make amazing discoveries. Also, they’ve solved the world’s energy problems a hundred times over.
MIT and there marketing and promotion of their research is itself an established meme. No body hypes shit harder than MIT. They also do make amazing discoveries. Also, they’ve solved the world’s energy problems a hundred times over.
katja , 1 month ago to technology in Seawater, caffeine, cans: MIT has the recipe for on-demand hydrogen. That article almost hurt to read.
That article almost hurt to read.
eleitl , 1 month ago to technology in Seawater, caffeine, cans: MIT has the recipe for on-demand hydrogen. Written by an idiot.
Written by an idiot.
umbrella , 1 month ago to technology in Seawater, caffeine, cans: MIT has the recipe for on-demand hydrogen. im all for using hydrogen instead of lithium but this sounds like bullshit
im all for using hydrogen instead of lithium but this sounds like bullshit
zazo , 1 month ago to technology in Seawater, caffeine, cans: MIT has the recipe for on-demand hydrogen. Here’s some math on that “revolutionary” idea to put things into perspective, as it turns out, it’s pretty underwhelming: If we used ALL the aluminum produced globally in a year (about 65 million tons), we’d get around 7.30 million tons of hydrogen. While that might sound like a lot, it really isn’t… That hydrogen would contain about 8.30 x 10^14 BTUs of energy. Meanwhile, our annual global methane production is sitting pretty at 1.14 x 10^17 BTU. Doing the math, and our “amazing” aluminum-to-hydrogen process gives us a whopping 0.73% of the energy we get from methane… And remember, this is assuming we use EVERY SINGLE BIT of aluminum we produce globally! Obv hydrogen is “cleaner” than gas, but the point is the scale - this method is a drop in the ocean compared to current energy usage. TL;DR: Using ALL the world’s annual aluminum production to make hydrogen would only give us 0.73% of the energy we get from natural gas… . . . . For the math nerds, here’s more detail on the chemistry and energy calc: The reaction: 2 Al + 6 H2O → 2 Al(OH)3 + 3 H2 Global aluminum production: ~65 million metric tons/year Molar mass of Al = 26.98 g/mol Moles of Al = 65,000,000,000 kg / 0.02698 kg/mol = 2.41 x 10^12 moles H2 produced = (2.41 x 10^12 moles Al * 3) / 2 = 3.62 x 10^12 moles H2 Mass of H2 = 3.62 x 10^12 moles * 2.016 g/mol = 7.30 x 10^12 g = 7.30 million metric tons BTU Calculation: Energy content of H2 = 113,738 BTU/kg Total energy from H2 = 7.30 x 10^9 kg * 113,738 BTU/kg = 8.30 x 10^14 BTU Methane Comparison: Annual natural gas production ≈ 4,000 billion cubic meters Assuming 80% methane content: 3,200 billion cubic meters of methane Energy content of methane ≈ 35,663 BTU/m^3 Total energy from methane = 3,200 x 10^9 m^3 * 35,663 BTU/m^3 = 1.14 x 10^17 BTU Ratio: (8.30 x 10^14) /(1.14 x 10^17) = 0.0073 or 0.73%
Here’s some math on that “revolutionary” idea to put things into perspective, as it turns out, it’s pretty underwhelming:
And remember, this is assuming we use EVERY SINGLE BIT of aluminum we produce globally!
Obv hydrogen is “cleaner” than gas, but the point is the scale - this method is a drop in the ocean compared to current energy usage.
TL;DR: Using ALL the world’s annual aluminum production to make hydrogen would only give us 0.73% of the energy we get from natural gas…
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For the math nerds, here’s more detail on the chemistry and energy calc:
BTU Calculation:
Methane Comparison:
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