It’s fine tbh, but YouTube is really running out of great contents these days, and you have to constantly check the sources before being gaslighted. I would rather take my pace and search up things when I wanted.
Just the opposite for me, I disconnected because I’m done with Google, now I want to stay way so the algorithm can’t find me. I’ll check what I want to check, when I want it.
Seconded, the recommendations can help you discover new things, that you didn't even know existed.. that said, I can't stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move.
I quite like it precisely because it provided no recommendations. I’m not enticed to waste time watching something I wasn’t interested in 3 seconds ago. If I want to watch something I have to look it up and that’s usually the end of it.
Meh, discoverability isn’t really as much of a problem as people think it is. Add videos to your Watch Later from your Subscriptions tab, and as YouTubers you like do collaborations or recommendations, you’ll discover similar channels. Sometimes you’ll find a channel from a creator’s website or from a podcast, or from a social media feed you follow. It’s a world-wide web, and as much as companies try to sell you the myth of discoverability-as-a-service, that’s just a marketing tool. They need it to push ads and drive retention. You don’t need it at all, because the web already does that.
I’m almost entirely off of black-box recommendation algorithms, and I still find new things I like. In fact, my to-watch, to-read, and to-listen queues are too big to handle in a reasonable amount of time. I regularly have to unsubscribe from things I don’t like as much anymore or risk getting deluged with too many things I want to see. But the bonus is, I don’t get anything I don’t want to see.
Write your own algorithm. It’s a better life, and it barely takes any more time or effort. Just change your bookmarks and be willing to put in an extra click or two when you want to consume something.
The difference is whether you watch a few videos you don’t really care about every day, or a few videos from creators you actually like and find interesting every day.
Also, “all that?” Seriously? You just go to your Subscriptions tab instead of your Home tab, and that’s too much for you? lol
It says that Piped is affected as well. This is probably a dumb question from me, but I use NewPipe in my phone to access YT - and it did not cause any trouble yet. I heard that the Piped project also uses NewPipe Extractor under the hood (which basically scrapes YT website). So why would Piped break but not NewPipe ?
This sort of cat and mouse style thing is completely expected, almost designed for period it’s no big deal when it happens. It’s only a big deal when it’s still going on many days later
It seems clear they don’t want us using their site with videos.
I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.
By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.
And “being in the same space” with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it’s sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.
Freedom is so close. It’s not in defeating the network effect, it’s in realizing that it’s fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.
The reason I like Gray Jay is that it is source agnostic, so you can still use YouTube (because that is where the content is now) while also using other sources.
Well, first, judging by the amount of likes\dislikes, it may have made sense for some of the people who read it. So maybe you should ask yourself whether you not understanding something is closer to being your problem or my problem.
It seems clear they don’t want us using their site with videos.
Google makes it unpleasant using YT for a part of its users. It’s clear they don’t want that part (us).
I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.
Serving files over HTTP is not something only Google can do.
By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.
I think you understood this sentence.
And “being in the same space” with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it’s sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.
This is in response to some unsaid thing like “but everyone uses YT” with the implication that on big platforms people are all in the same space. In fact you’ll never “meet” some people there simply because of how recommendations work.
Freedom is so close. It’s not in defeating the network effect, it’s in realizing that it’s fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.
You say this- many people do but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site. Everyone just say “it’s too popular” that it has the entire audience but no, there just isn’t any good alternative anywhere. People don’t get how fast everyone would switch and how little anyone would look back if there was just any good alternative. Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy! It’s not easy. They obviously have a superior product and is now enshittening it so they can milk money from it
but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site.
This and all your further smartassery would be funny if the Web weren’t full of alternatives which technically work just as good or just as bad, just don’t have the network effect.
Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy!
I don’t think somebody saying that something is not needed should provide an implementation to support their words.
Also I think something like Lemmy + BitTorrent support in browsers would solve the problem. It’s actually funny that you still can’t just use HTML5 video tag with a magnet link.
And yes a torrent protocol for streaming media is a great idea but how. How do you seed so fast during watch, how does this not suck so much more than having local servers have your most likely to watch videos cached and ready like they do? It’s a very hard problem to make a product that can offer what they offer. And they abuse that fact
Google is going to keep finding ways to break these front-ends as they search for ways other than ads to monetize their services. I fully expect they will eventually lockout the public API so only the official app can use it in that quest as well. In my opinion the front-ends are just a bandaid and the real solution is something other than YouTube completely, if that is even possible at this point.
All of the front-end solutions are telling Google is that people want that content and they will come to YouTube for it one way or the other, Google just needs to figure out how to force people down the workflow that gets them the most money.
It does seem like they moved their focus away from ublockO to focus on the front ends, though. While I can’t use invidious, I can use regular ol’ YT with UblockO activated and I’m not constantly having to fight and wait for an update.
I think it’s funny those pricks are fighting a multi front battle that they’re clearly losing lol
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