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autotldr Bot , to world in Australian tycoon apologises over calls for more unemployment to fix worker attitudes

This is the best summary I could come up with:


One of Australia’s richest men has sparked a global backlash after saying unemployment should double to remind arrogant workers of their place.

Speaking during a property summit this week, the 41-year-old said the Covid-19 pandemic had changed employees’ attitudes and work ethics for the worse - singling out builders as an example.

He claimed that shift is impacting productivity in the sector, which - combined with tougher regulations - is fuelling Australia’s housing shortage.

Shifting attitudes toward employment are also a matter of widespread discussion on social media, giving rise to hashtags like “quiet quitting”, a term meant to capture the decision to stop going above and beyond for bosses; and “lazy-girl jobs”, which refers to well paying, flexible positions that offer greater work-life balance.

Mr Gurner’s comments, which were shared by the Australian Financial Review (AFR) which hosted the summit, have drawn criticism on social media platforms like X (formerly Twitter), TikTok and LinkedIn.

It sees people on the streets and dependent upon food banks," Mr Wolahan told the AFR.


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Tischkante , to news in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation exposure levels

Nice timing, since the first remotely substantial upgraded iPhone in the past years just released. Probably just a coincidence.

rikonium , to news in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation exposure levels

I have not heard about SAR in a long time, I’m just glad the days of alleged baseball-sized tumors associated with cell phones and facing the phone towards one’s body are over.

autotldr Bot , to news in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation exposure levels

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Click here to see the summaryOn Tuesday, the French watchdog which governs radio frequencies also told the tech giant to fix existing phones. The ANFR has advised Apple that if it cannot resolve the issue via a software update, it must recall every iPhone 12 ever sold in the country. But the World Health Organization has previously sought to allay fears about radiation emitted by mobile phones. Apple told the BBC it was contesting the ANFR’s review, and said it had provided the regulator with lab results from the tech giant itself and third parties which show the device is compliant with all the relevant rules. France’s digital minister Jean-Noel Barrot told French newspaper Le Parisien the decision was due to radiation levels above the acceptable threshold, according to Reuters. It comes as the Chinese foreign ministry issued a rebuttal against media reports which claimed government agencies had told staff to stop using iPhones. — Saved 69% of original text.

Zardoz , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

A Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) of 5.2 W/kg technically does exceed limits and device manufacturers agree to meet regulations. However, SAR values are not constant and can vary with real-world usage. Phones often operate at lower power levels, reducing actual SAR exposure.

A weak microwave, for theoretical comparison, would likely put out hundreds of Watts per kg.

People are way more likely to get heat damage from the battery than the radio waves from a cellphone

PreviouslyAmused ,

Right, but a microwave is surrounded by a faraday cage, and the cell phone is next to you head. Does that make any difference?

Honestly asking, I have no clue.

MossyFeathers , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

This is literally like if France said, “your flashlight is too bright; it’s causing cancer and must be stopped”. The use of the term, “radiation” in this context is disingenuous because they’re basically saying, “the wifi is too strong”. Technically visible light is the same kind of radiation as microwaves, radiowaves, wifi and x-rays. The reason why x-rays are considered harmful and wifi/microwaves/radio/visible light isn’t is because x-rays are much higher energy than the others, and are able to ionize materials they come into contact with. This can cause cancer. You know what doesn’t cause cancer? Wifi. Unless you’re shitting out enough microwave radiation (also not cancer-causing) to cook an egg, it’s pretty harmless. This is the kinda shit anti-vax Facebook moms get upset about. They hear “radiation” and their knee jerks so hard it shatters their jaw.

Taleya ,

‘Here is a hard limit. Don’t exceed it’

Apple alone out of every mobile phone manufacturer, including themsleves as this is a single model in question exceeds

You: YOUR LIMIT IS BAD

MossyFeathers ,

My point is that the limit is goofy. Other manufacturers may not exceed it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s goofy to begin with.

otter , (edited )

I feel like the limit itself COULD be reasonable (there’s more to the potential harms than ionizing radiation /cancer), but popscience news sites are going to make misleading headlines anyways

MossyFeathers ,

Can you provide me with articles about that? Afaik the general scientific consensus is that as long as it’s not shoving out >100watts or is releasing EM radiation on an ionizing band (UV and higher), then it’s pretty harmless.

Can you warm up a chicken with wifi? Yeah, but afaik a signal that strong would probably already violate various international treaties regarding radio communications long before it got strong enough to have a noticable affect on the chicken.

Think about how many watts your microwave needs to cook food. That’s the amount of power it takes to heat up food using EM radiation that’s been roughly tuned with the intention of penetrating and heating physical matter by generating friction between water molecules. If I understand the article, the iPhone is putting out less than 6 watts. That’s almost nothing. Should there be a limit? Yeah, but to my knowledge, you’d start accidentally jamming communication frequencies around you long before it became a threat to personal health.

otter ,

Ah ok that makes sense, that’s what I was wondering in another thread. If a phone COULD output a dangerous level of EMR.

Can you provide me with articles about that?

I was referring to the stuff you described, just didn’t know the specifics. Edited my comment to stress that

orclev ,

It’s perhaps helpful to realize that the difference between visible light and radio isn’t really that much, they’re both on the EM spectrum. You can generally think about non-ionizing EM radiation like you would light and not be too far off in terms of intuition on danger. How dangerous would you consider a 5W lightbulb? 60W? 100W? 500W? You probably wouldn’t want to press your face up to a 60W bulb, but you wouldn’t worry about having one sitting in your ceiling, or even a couple feet away from you. For reference FCC rules limit wifi access points to under 5W of power in most cases (there’s exceptions for point-to-point radios, but those are VERY uncommon except in some specific commercial settings). Likewise a phone sitting in your pocket, or even held up to your face that’s putting out even 10W while over double the power limit really isn’t anything to worry about.

The current limits for RF devices are VERY conservative, in part due to the massive fear mongering caused by article titles like the above one. The limits are set in such a way that there is absolutely no risk whatsoever, even for devices that massively exceed the limits. In fact I’d argue the limits have far more to do with interference than any actual health concerns. Nobody wants to have to battle their neighbors for wifi signal and a big way to accomplish that is to mandate very low power limits. Many lower power devices are far easier to manage in terms of interference than a few high power devices.

Taleya ,

doesn’t matter if it is or not. No one else has a problem maintaining the requested safety level.

Letting things slip because “hurr goofy regulation” is why the US has exploding trains

iMike , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

I bought iPhone 12 when it came out but returned it due to having yellow screen issues which have never been fixed. I bought 11 pro instead as it actually takes better pictures than the 12. I knew something was wrong with that phone 😅

balder1991 ,

Ever since I saw camera reviews online I crossed the 12 out from my options. The 11 (and 13) pictures were considered better and more color accurate in most blind test reviews.

bender ,
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Thoughts on 15?

balder1991 ,

I suppose there isn’t yet videos with camera comparisons, but this one has some good information about the 15 Pro.

lustrum , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

Fair play to France. It’s above legal levels, properly threatening tech giants is what they need to comply.

DontMakeItTim ,

Frances is notable for being very strict about cell phone radiation. They require every phone sold to include a headset with mic, not for hand free driving, but because the government says that talking on the phone normally exposes your head to dangerous levels of radiation.

Disgusted_Tadpole ,
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We have no evidence of health danger when it comes to wifi & co, but customers should be able to choose if they want the phone away from their head or not is more how I understand it. Consumers here are indeed well protected, it’s quite nice tbh

DontMakeItTim ,

Apple stopped selling the iPhone 12 yesterday, not because of France’s regulations, but because it is so old that it has been bumped out of the line by the iPhone 13.

otter ,

As for why

EMR radiation isn’t the type that can cause cancer (which happens when the radiation wavelength is low enough to ‘ionize’ genetic material), but it can heat up tissue the same way a microwave might. With tissue heating, standards are likely set based on the risks / concerns that a country’s health authority thought were reasonable enough. This might also vary depending on different parts of the body.

If they set a standard and a malfunction is causing the phone to exceed that limit, it’s worth stopping sales so that it can be fixed.

Ullallulloo , (edited )
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Has there been any cause of RF leading to burns or fever? The idea that a cell phone could transfer enough energy to make even the slightest difference seems insane to me. I can’t imagine it’s physically possible for the health risk to be any worse than raising your thermostat by 1° would be.

This seems like nothing more than pandering to psuedoscientific quakery.

ultratiem , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels
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Did my 12 mini turn into a rare collectors item over there???

SpaceNoodle , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

It took them three years after release to determine this? Were there no FCC-equivalent filings well before then?

revs ,

They tested on release (it passed), they then re-tested recently (it failed)

orclev ,

I’m far more likely to believe they screwed up the retest than I am that France suddenly found something everyone else missed. Also 4 watts is nothing. I’d maybe start to get a little worried if it was putting out 40 watts, although even that much is still pretty minimal.

michaelrose ,

It produces zero radiation like a nuclear reactor and only a little more energy than WiFi. This energy’s only effect is to heat adjacent tissue but much less than the actual heat produced.

SpaceNoodle ,

They just like using the weasel word “radiation” to make boomers & older gen Xers scared.

artair ,
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I’m Gen X and I’ve been in Information Technology for twenty-eight years. My generation was there at the dawn of personal computing. Yes, there are less technically-savvy people in every generational group, but “older Gen Xers” might consider what you’ve said to be… hmm, what’s the right term? Oh, yes. “Bullshit stereotyping based on age” is the term I’m grasping for here.

I’m well aware of the ELF (Extremely Low-Frequency Radiation) panic. This actually started in the 1970s and rose to national prominence around the late 90s, when it was covered to death by every news outlet. And it was just as silly then as it is now. France is just being France.

And that has little or nothing to do with which generational group you call home.

SaltySalamander ,
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garretble , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels
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Me browsing this on a 12Pro:

“Phew”

Disgusted_Tadpole ,
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Cancer Pro Max

Ullallulloo ,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation#/media/File:EM-spectrum.svg It’s very well settled that radio waves cannot cause cancer.

Disgusted_Tadpole ,
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It was a joke but yea

SpaceNoodle , to news in US releases $6bn in frozen Iran funds for prisoner swap

How are we guaranteeing that this money is used solely for humanitarian efforts?

baked_tea ,

That’s the neat part…

imPastaSyndrome ,

I was wondering that- so I read the fucking article

Last month, he stressed that Qatar had agreed to ensure the funds were used by Iran “strictly for humanitarian purposes and in a strictly controlled way”. He also said Iran would not have direct access to the funds and there would be “significant oversight” from the US.

Wasn’t that hard?

Alto ,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

The notoriously unimpechable and not at all corrupt Qatar

SpaceNoodle ,

Apparently it’s too hard for you to actually read my question.

imPastaSyndrome ,

With that attitude, I assume that no words will change your mind so why even bother posting other than being sarcastic and pitht and getting fake pats on the back?

SpaceNoodle ,

Nah, I just like being hilarious.

You never bothered to answer my question. How are we guaranteeing that this money is used solely for humanitarian efforts?

imPastaSyndrome ,

You have a lot of work to do, then

That’s what the “significant oversight” would be, I assume, but again, I don’t expect the words to actually mean anything to you. It’s not going to change your mind having an actual answer, You’re just going to say " yeah but how actually"

SpaceNoodle ,

It’s literally the question. A serial human-rights abuser like Qatar and a two-word pinky promise don’t constitute any covenant. You’re being quite disingenuous.

SeaJ ,

Qatar and Iran don’t exactly have the closest of relations. Qatar may have terrible human rights abuses but I’m sure they will be perfectly happy to be strict with money for a country they do not like.

SpikesOtherDog , to news in Libya floods: Why damage to Derna was so catastrophic

TLDR:

  1. Rains more than 20cm/6in
  2. Dams made of lower quality material were more easily overwhelmed
  3. Fast moving water with debris is quite destructive
bender , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels
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I smell a class action lawsuit

lustrum ,

Not sure. The EU legal systems are different to the US. You can’t just sue for millions of damges willy nilly you’d need to display how you’ve been out of pocket by some value and then sue for that. This kind of thing is very hard to put a finger on, also if apple update and/or recall the devices there is nothing to be wronged for (assuming they give refunds, updates, replacements).

I’m assuming in the US you can just sue apple for the fact it was above the limit and gain damages even when it’s had no measurable impact on you?

orclev ,

Sure, you can sue for damages which is…

checks notes

Nothing apparently, this is completely safe.

michaelrose , to technology in France halts iPhone 12 sales over radiation levels

Title is irresponsible. It produces no ionizing radiation which is what the layman understands by the word radiation.

It produces 1.75 watts per kg over the standard. There is no reason to believe this has any effect whatsoever. it’s not clear that the standard is based on anything meaningful whatsoever

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