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nevele , to bookstodon
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How do people in general feel about dream sequences in books? I've noticed lately that I almost start doing eyerolls when we get to a 'that night they dreamt...' part of a novel.

I used to be quite fond of them, especially when used well, like in the Windup-Bird Chronicle or the dreams of Paul in

But currently reading almost any novel I have the feeling that in a majority of books the dream sequence is just a cheap trick to put some quick symbolism in a novel that's otherwise completely lacking it. Or as an easy way of foreshadowing.

Where I personally think it can be used so well to actually deepen the depth of a character. How does someone's subconscious deal with processing all that has happened lately. And what feeling it leaves behind. But that really rarely seems to be the case.

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GrittyLipids , to random
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Off the top of my head I don’t remember how much the book of talks about the Harkonnen use of gladiatorial combat, but the movie draws a relatively subtle link between their idea of it and bullfighting - the guys in the wide black hats are like picadors, who stab the bull with lances to weaken it. I’ll avoid spoilers on a 60-year-old book or the new movie, but it’s a fun subtle thing.


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I’m not really talking about the challenging. That’s just like duels and having stand-ins so the nobles express discontent while killing other people instead of themselves. It’s more how both houses have ways of proving the butch manliness of their leaders in front of the masses - the kill bulls, the kill captives. Even if the other houses have versions of that, there’s a very specific resemblance between Atreides and Harkonnen.


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I think Herbert mentions how Leto’s father died fighting a bull, but that’s about it, unless that comes up in books after the first. I need to read Messiah, which is conveniently next on the list after .

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