I have to use Edge and Bing at work. I’ve gotten so used to how I have Firefox and DDG set up as my browser and search on my phone and home computer that using Edge & Bing is uncomfortable - the results page is just a cluttered mess. Is the link an ad? A real result?
Why would I think that Bing chat is anything other than a gimmick? There’s no incentive to use something that might turn out to be just another way for Microsoft to get more data from me.
I use Bing and Edge daily for work because they integrate nicely with M365 and SharePoint. This Copilot crap does nothing but get in my way.
In fact, Microsoft pushing Copilot in our faces only results in a disruption of productivity. It took months (which is break-neck speed for MSFT) for them to add the option to disable Copilot in PowerPlatform. Why it was forced upon users in the first place is beyond comprehension.
Improvements in technology are great. Options are great. Getting out of my way and getting shit done is even greater.
I don’t know about everyone else but, whether it’s a major corporation or an indie app developer or an automotive manufacturer, the way they all keep changing things so quickly (mostly for the worse) is pushing me away from using tech on a whole.
Without getting too off topic (too late?), there’s just so much consumer frustration from streaming services, cars, phones, wearables, vr, delivery services, etc., that I have to imagine / hope that in the next few years we’re going to start seeing an anti-tech movement pick up more traction. I mean, how many people really want a voice driven AI assistant?
Do I want AI to give me better search results? Sure - if it can do so intelligently. It still gets things wrong sending me down a rabbit hole losing hours of productivity. I don’t have time to train your AI for you so just get out of my way and let me know once you’re smarter than me.
I use bing copilot constantly at work. Anytime I need to search for anything I use it.
Saves so much time and gives way more tailored answers than reading blogs/docs.
I can get up and running in a new framework or language instantly now.
It’s also good at finding stuff in less popular languages. For instance searching for vb6 stuff (I know, it sucks haha) almost always gets you VB.net solutions. But bing AI is spot on with it.
It’s totally changed how I work. I can go on a project in a language / framework I’ve never used and be productive within the hour.
I suppose there’s positive, then there’s “totally changed how I work”. It’s a big call. Maybe a real-world example would make it sound more believable: “before ChatGPT, I would have to sift through stacks of outdated VB6 documentation on $task. This took up most of the day. Yesterday I used a LLM to get a basic implementation of $task then I tidied it up and installed it within an hour.”
The thing is it’s true. Before the internet grew and search engines got big you had a massive manual on your desk for whatever you were using. At my first job I had a yearly budget for buying technical books. That or you’d install a massive help library like MSDN.
Imo this is as big a change as moving from those to blogs and online docs.
kagi is so overrated, I don’t get it. it’s not even worth to set up email aliases and abuse their unlimited trials. searx is much better, if you really want to pay for something and need Ai stuff i recommended perplexity and nothing else.
$120 a year and still limited to 3600 searches. Pretty sure I'm way above that number. I get they need to make up for lost as revenue but that's still too much for me to justify. I'll keep giving my data to a free engine.
Why does Kagi Search require an account? Kagi Search requires an account only because it is a paid service which requires an account for the transaction.
Note that Kagi does not collect any personal information for billing and that you can even use an anonymous payment card such as Privacy if you want to.
While I agree that this post seems like a giant spammy ad, you don’t have to provide anything personal to Kagi. You can pay with crypto rather than card - I paid using Monero via a swap service.
10 Create new awesome service
20 Get a lot of users
30 Build a great community
40 Start running ads to offset costs
50 Get VC funding
60 Add new features that enable increased monetizations 70 Make old core feature more annoying to use.
80 Push users to new features
90 Kill important old core feature
100 Push old users out
110 Increase monetization of the service
120 See user numbers dwindle
130 See new competitors start
140 Count of existing userbase to keep service alive
150 Slowly move into obscurity 160 Become a joke brand that is forever tarnished.
170 Never really die
180 goto 10
I won’t lie, I was really dubious on the idea of paying for search, but after the demo I really came around and signed up for the year. Kagi results are far and away better than anything else on 90% of my queries. The only thing I miss is, when you use google in your searchbar, you can use it as a calculator. E.g. if I type “13 * 42”, the top suggestion is “= 546”, you don’t even have to press enter… So I got really used to using that as my default calculator. But Kagi just blanks you, so I’ve had to start keeping a desktop calculator open all the time lol
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