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MrApples , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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A Lunduke article??? Ewww. To the unsub button I go! Thought beehaw was better than this…

TheRtRevKaiser , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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Hey folks - Just want to note that the !Technology mod team is aware of the reports on this post. After some discussion we decided to leave the thread up, since it had already generated a decent amount of good discussion despite the problems with the article itself. However, I do want to make it clear that we do not condone intentionally misgendering people.

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TheAnonymouseJoker , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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I remember I used to watch Bryan Lunduke’s videos a lot, and then he became a right wing nutjob with the China lab COVID and all kinds of Trump stuff. Stopped watching him. So again, why is he being posted around on Lemmy so much?

bloopernova , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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Why are people spamming this multiple times per day?

Oh no the scary left wing people are trying to treat each other better. Why does that bother the right wing so much?

Eheran , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

overall expenses went way (way) down. By roughly $100 Million. With the deepest cuts being focused in “Software development”.

Am I stupid or the author? The software development expenses went up by 40 million. That’s what the table says right there. What a pile of trash.

fritz ,

He’s a dumbass

mo_ztt ,
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2021 is the column on the left, 2020 is the column on the right. The author is correct (factually; conclusionally I’m less sure.)

fritz , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

Cringe article. While I agree that CEO pay is ridiculous, this is hardly a Mozilla only issue. And yes, Google is dominating tech, even paying Mozilla big sums. I just don’t get why the author is so pissed about their political budget. Guess what, people who fight for a free and open internet are usually leftists and leftist organizations. Shocking. Who could have known. I don’t even want to imagine how the author comes to the conclusion that this is some big conspiracy but I think we all know what political spectrum that guy belongs to.

modulartable , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

This entire article reads as a clear hit piece on Mozilla.

The fact that Mozilla spends money on political activism and companies involved in things akin to that isn’t some big revelation like the article makes it out to be.

It’s literally on Mozilla’s website in great detail with the overarching goal of a free and open internet, which in the majority of countries requires political activism.

Ridiculous frankly

humor_me ,

Yea not much of this is surprising. They’re pretty transparent about where they put their money so trying to spin it as something more sinister is amusing.

But when the author puts “white people” in quotes it quickly becomes clear what this is about. He seems more upset they spend a few hundred thousand (out of over a billion?) on DEI training for their employees.

Haui ,
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I was thinking along the same line. Something is really weird about this. Maybe someone who actually has a horse in that race can shed light on it.

One thing that does spike my interest is if right-wing, white, cis, male people are in fact more susceptible to this kind of language.

Someone who actually reads scientific journals would be immediately thrown off by the language.

zipzoopaboop , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

Funny how this worthless fear mongering is appearing right as people start to protest chromium.

Quexotic , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

Given the author’s political affiliation and the apparent lack of coverage of this anywhere else I find it difficult to make any conclusions other than those that would indicate the author’s politically makes.

jason , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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@Engywuck Great article

totallynotfbi , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla

I’ve heard that it wouldn’t it be possible due to tax laws, but I do wish that you could donate directly to Mozilla Corporation itself. The foundation’s advocacy work is important, but it would also be important to ensure Firefox’s continued development without them having to rely on Google

hamsterkill ,

You could just buy one of their products (Pocket, VPN, etc.) and not use it if you want.

NENathaniel ,
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Where does the money from here go?

donate.mozilla.org/en-US/

Audacity9961 ,

To the foundation for their advocacy.

Ungoliantsspawn , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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I for one was not familiar with this and even if the source is not reliable there sure is an unhealthy amount of politics involved.

0xb , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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Less than one minute in reading and there’s already one big misrepresentation and one outright lie.

He tries to ‘clear’ the misconception that Mozilla develops software by showing the areas of focus of the foundation, making a point about how it should be software development and instead are some vague ideological goals.

But the foundation should be ideological. The browser is ideological and lots of the users use it because of ideology. There would be absolutely no issue with that even if the fact that is the corporation and not the foundation the one that focuses on software development weren’t true. Open the frontpage of any big open source project that works with a foundation (GNOME, Fedora, Linux) and you will see front and center the big focus on promotion of ideological values. And those are values focused on internet freedom, which are absolutely related to software.That’s what a foundation does. That’s the way things are. And yet open mozilla.org and the first thing you’ll see is the software it makes. So what’s really the accusation there?

Second point makes the previous accusation make even less sense. He proceeds to show financial balances about reduction in expenses that show that the biggest one is software development. So the reality shows that Mozilla is focused on software development. The accusation goes that precisely software development is the area with the biggest cuts. One could argue that doing more with less is a good thing, specially knowing how exactly the types like the author frequently use smaller projects like librefox or ungoogled chromium as an example of a smaller more focused project that firefox should be, but I won’t do that. Instead I will point out how his accusation of the biggest cuts to software development are and outright lie easily visible to anyone with eyes and basic arithmetic knowledge. While software development saw 41 million in cuts, administration and management costs went down almost 60 million. One would think that’s a good thing and exactly the kind of point he should be noticing given the accusation, but if the foundation is becoming leaner in the management side that would kind of render his whole text moot, so he ignores that.

I will keep reading and analyze each point on his own, but after this and knowing very well this kind of people I don’t think anyone could trust this analysis. I’m sure I’ll come across the author anonymously on 4chan attacking ‘pozzilla’ and their ‘trannyware’ (I’m sorry) or on twitter harassing women developers, and I’ll let him know my opinions.

skullgiver , (edited ) to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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  • entropicdrift ,
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    I think this approach is doomed. People only care about Mozilla because of Firefox and Firefox is falling behind again, no doubt coinciding with the mass layoffs and the ejection of the Servo engine. They’ve caught up with Chrome on most fronts a year or three ago when their reinvented CSS and layout engine was released, but they’re still on the back foot these days.

    This is incorrect. Firefox recently surpassed Chrome in a key benchmark and has generally been on a roll lately.

    Yes, their current iterative improvements are not as sexy as the big release of Quantum, but to say they’re currently falling behind is the opposite of the truth. They’ve just pulled ahead.

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  • Audacity9961 , (edited )

    This is not correct.

    arewefastyet.com shows very clearly that although chrome beats firefox in some benchmarks, firefox trades blows with it and is similar to or faster in others.

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  • ichbinjasokreativ ,

    you can just move to chromium though, getting chrome performance without google spyware

    Ganbat ,

    Chrome also boasts about having the best performance.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, running the two side-by-side tends to spell a whole different picture.

    CyberCatBytes , to technology in Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla
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    It's so painfully obvious that the article was written to push a personal agenda rather than objectively address the topic

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